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Quote: cod'ead "Yes, it's so terrible that they fritter away money on things like education, healthcare and policing'"


What is terrible is the amount of waste in the public sector - so you need to increase spending disproportionately to get any kind of positive outcomes.

Spending on public services is an easy way to get things moving - unfortunately it only ever has very short term benefits as the last Labour government realised.

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Today should be fun, there are some real gems lined of to speak

Theresa May & Chris Grayling impersonating the Krankies tearing up the Human Rights Bill

And to top it all off tomorrow, Camoron will be trying to out-UKIP, UKIP

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Tax Credits will be frozen for 2 years from 2016 under a re-elected Tory government. I know i'm a dirty, filthy scrounger for claiming them, but if my employer, and most other people's employers paid them a suitable wage, i wouldn't need them. Cost of living will have further increased by then, and my average payrise per year in my 8 years with my current employer is around 7p, so... struggles ahead.

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Quote: 100% Wire "Tax Credits will be frozen for 2 years from 2016 under a re-elected Tory government. I know i'm a dirty, filthy scrounger for claiming them, but if my employer, and most other people's employers paid them a suitable wage, i wouldn't need them. Cost of living will have further increased by then, and my average payrise per year in my 8 years with my current employer is around 7p, so... struggles ahead.'"


Gidiot need to find £25bn further savings, who better to fund them than the already impoverished?

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Quote: cod'ead "Standee believes in a "small state".'"


I believe in a appropriately sized and funded state, where those in [igenuine[/i need get the assistance they [igenuinely[/i require.

Quote: cod'ead "So small that he has convinced himself (although there are one or two doubters), that his parents fully-funded not only his birth but ALL of his education and welfare needs'"


You have no idea of the circumstance of any of those things.

Quote: cod'ead "up to the point where he can fund all of that himself.'"


as it stands, I couldn't, not to a standard I'd find acceptable, hence I haven't been irresponsible and had kids like shelling peas, unfortunately some of the rest of the population just make selfish decisions and expect people to pick up the tab for them. "well, they're rich, innit, they can pay for me to sit on benefits street"

Quote: cod'ead "I know that he enjoys a spot of skiing, I only hope he doesn't have an accident in a country such as France, then he'll find out what 3rd world healthcare is all about.'"
I'll assume you're not wishing misfortune upon me, not you usual style. And yes, I do Ski, and I also have the relevant insurance to cover me in the event of an accident.

Quote: cod'ead "He also reckoned that this bill was false because it was in $s, despite the fact that it is the usual currency in the US and also the fact that the US tends not to have a "free at point of need" medical system]'"
And, as I said above, most Americans have the adequate level of insurance in place PRIOR to making a decision to have children.

We have different opinions, as has been proven over many years, and, with a fair wind for us both, will last many more years. I simply cannot see how [iconstantly[/i bemoaning people wealth, and yet expecting them to underpin an overly generous welfare system is logical.

Cameron has, and earns, money some[/i people who genuinely cannot work, but not as many as those who are [iclaiming[/i they cannot work.

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Quote: Hull White Star "That bill looks about right. My cousin's last baby born cost her personally about $7,000. Her insurance from General Motors paid the difference of about $40k. She explained to me, everything from a meal to a plaster was billed.'"

as it should be, the State didn't get her pregnant!?

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Quote: Standee "as it should be, the State didn't get her pregnant!?'"


And you wonder why you get abuse, you bring it all on yourself.

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Irony, a man who got everything he has by inheriting it seeks to stop others getting something for nothing...

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Quote: Big Graeme "And you wonder why you get abuse, you bring it all on yourself.'"

it was a personal choice for her to get pregnant, I get abuse because some posters are Teflon when it comes to the AUP.

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Quote: Standee "as it should be, the State didn't get her pregnant!?'"


I'll take a wild guess that you were born in Beverley Westwood NHS hospital and your parents didn't pay a penny for your birth because the state didn't get your mother pregnant did they? I'll take another wild guess and say that your parents didn't pay a fee for you at the state school South Hunsley that you went to either.

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Quote: Big Graeme "And you wonder why you get abuse, you bring it all on yourself.'"


Why would a poster receive abuse for that viewpoint?

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Quote: Hull White Star "I'll take a wild guess that you were born in Beverley Westwood NHS hospital.'"

wrong, but keep cracking on.

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Quote: Ajw71 "Why would a poster receive abuse for that viewpoint?'"

because it doesn't fit with he "waaah waah waaah, I've made little out of life and it's someone else's responsibility to pay" mentality?

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Quote: Standee "wrong, but keep cracking on.'"


I'll bet my mortgage is was an NHS hospital and your parents didn't pay a penny because yours and my grandparents who were working and paid taxes then paid for your birth as with your education just as you are funding the OAP's of today and the kids of todays education. Thats the way how this country works, if you don't like it, go and live somewhere you are alright Jack.

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Quote: Hull White Star "I'll bet my mortgage is was an NHS hospital and your parents didn't pay a penny because yours and my grandparents who were working and paid taxes then paid for your birth as with your education just as you are funding the OAP's of today and the kids of todays education. Thats the way how this country works, if you don't like it, go and live somewhere you are alright Jack.'"

No, I'll stay and remain incredibly tax efficient, thanks.

too many hangers on and freeloaders, just my opinion.

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