There are a lot of things which are coming out which there doesnt seem to be any evidence for, or seem to be taking on a different tone which has meant this story has begun to eat itself, where every remark is looked at in the context of being spoken by a highly active paedophile/conspiracy/coverup which in turn becomes evidence of a highly active paedophile/conspiracy/coverup

You're big enough and oracle-like enough to be aware that "whole female population" was obviously a deliberate exaggeration. But nice of you to have one of your typical "overthetopness" holier-than-thou rants before admitting somebody has made a valid point.



The females thing was merely a reference to my facebook feed being filled with "hang this sick murderer" statuses even before he was charged of anything. P*sses me off. If it was anyone but a lil white girl they wouldn't be d.

I hear Saville's family will be dismantling his headstone out of respect for public opinion.

Pathetic

So you know someone that helped harbour a sex criminal?

I remember reading a quote by a senior police officer in a very thinly veiled reference to Saville circa 1980 "The public think he's a saint, we'd never get a conviction based on the testimony of a few lasses".

It partly reflects the way the polarised view that the public have towards celebrities. They're either saints or sinners, nothing in between. The idea that someone could raise millions for charity, run marathons, put in hours of voluntary work every week and also have a very dark side just didnt compute.

Your 'valid point' and your comments about the female population were not one and the same.





These are valid points.

However, I've seen male posters on Facebook etc doing the same. And it could also be noted that pretty much all of the editors doing the stirring of public emotions through the media are, erm, male. And that obviously applies to the selectiveness of what constitutes a 'sexy' picture for the front page of a newspaper.



Made me wonder if there was a reason he had asked for his coffin to be encased in concrete.



No.

I have met and talked to someone who told me something that was, however easy one found it to believe, nothing other than hearsay.

But doesn't that make his sentence even more grotesque?

Presumably he would have benefited from some form of 'discount' for pleading guilty which means the sentencer was inclined to give an even longer sentence.

He got the usual one third discount for pleading guilty.

And what was JLC's sentence for actual abuse?

Now, I suspect that the community sentence handed down to Collins will have a positive effect (that and the damage to his career). But what it does make this other sentence look even more ridiculous.

Along with the epitaph, "It was good while it lasted"?

Thats the kind of thing i was talking about when I said.[i There are a lot of things which are coming out which there doesnt seem to be any evidence for, or seem to be taking on a different tone which has meant this story has begun to eat itself, where every remark is looked at in the context of being spoken by a highly active paedophile/conspiracy/coverup which in turn becomes evidence of a highly active paedophile/conspiracy/coverup[/i

He was encased in concrete because for some reason there was some incorrect information put out that the coffin was made of gold and some of his possessions (like jewelry etc) had been buried with him.