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| I think you need to view this from a different perspective.
If it were Man United say in this position, and not the scousers, do you think all the scousers would be cheering and encouraging all the other teams supporters, that Man United should get the coronation?

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| Quote ="Superblue"I think you need to view this from a different perspective.
If it were Man United say in this position, and not the scousers, do you think all the scousers would be cheering and encouraging all the other teams supporters, that Man United should get the coronation?
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Yes, even Evertonians can see that Liverpool have won it, and Man City fans, Chelsea players and coach....
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| I see the Queen is going to broadcast to the nation - that should help!!
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| A bit insensitive for some so deleted Durham Giant
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I see the Queen is going to broadcast to the nation - that should help!!'"
it will probably mean a heck of a lot to the majority of those at most risk, and those who see themselves as fulfilling a moral obligation and sense of duty.
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| Quote ="IR80"it will probably mean a heck of a lot to the majority of those at most risk, and those who see themselves as fulfilling a moral obligation and sense of duty.'"
Presumably you're talking about key workers? I'm one - and I can tell you with certainty that I'm supremely indifferent to whatever the queen has to say. I'm also not especially ar5ed about clapping on the doorstep - I just want PPE, and tests for my frontline colleagues. I wonder if she can help with that?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Presumably you're talking about key workers? I'm one - and I can tell you with certainty that I'm supremely indifferent to whatever the queen has to say. I'm also not especially ar5ed about clapping on the doorstep - I just want PPE, and tests for my frontline colleagues. I wonder if she can help with that?'"
IF you are a key worker, what contribution are you making spouting rhetoric, opinion and general spite on a Rugby League forum?
What PPE are you lacking?
Which front line role do you fulfill?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Presumably you're talking about key workers? I'm one - and I can tell you with certainty that I'm supremely indifferent to whatever the queen has to say. I'm also not especially ar5ed about clapping on the doorstep - I just want PPE, and tests for my frontline colleagues. I wonder if she can help with that?'"
It is interesting - at my firm I have adapted to the changes - home working for those who can - distancing for those who need to come to the depot. I have upped the cleaning regime - changed break start times etc. In two weeks since we instigated this not one person has gone off sick and I have drivers delivering all over the place. It shows working can be conducted safely with a bit of thought - simply no need to crash the economy in the way they have - bonkers IMO.
What do Sweden know that we don't - I see for all their testing the numbers of deaths in Germany are on a significant upward curve.
As a private business surely you will have bought all the PPE and tests you need - you obviously saw this coming and took the obvious precautions?
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| Will you two grow up or yet another thread will be locked - come on I know the schools are shut but shouldn't you two have school work to get on with!!
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| =#FF0000The posts to which Sal refers have been either edited (by Durham Giant) or removed. Please keep it a little bit more cordial and slightly less offensive or confrontational guys.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I see the Queen is going to broadcast to the nation - that should help!!'"
I wonder if this will be another annus horribilis moment?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I wonder if this will be another annus horribilis moment?'"
These people are an irrelevance - the sooner the monarchy is disbanded the better
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"These people are an irrelevance - the sooner the monarchy is disbanded the better'"
We are in alignment after all, but no worries our AAA credit rating will see us through, won’t it? 
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"These people are an irrelevance - the sooner the monarchy is disbanded the better'"
I would love for you to go to Catterick Garrison, stand in the mess hall, and say that.
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| Quote ="IR80"I would love for you to go to Catterick Garrison, stand in the mess hall, and say that.'"
And you question Corbyn not following social distancing when you suggest the above.
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| Quote ="IR80"I would love for you to go to Catterick Garrison, stand in the mess hall, and say that.'"
Why?
What are suggesting would become of him?
Do elaborate my friend 
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| Quote ="Superblue"We are in alignment after all, but no worries our AAA credit rating will see us through, won’t it?
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Our credit rating will have a very limited impact on the ability of the government to dispose of bonds at appropriate interest rates. I would suggest the UK is in a much better position now that it is out of the EU - if Italy or Spain collapse that will be the end of the EU. So the question is where is the money coming from to bail Italy out - they will not be in a position to raise bonds at anything like reasonable rates
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| If our credit rating is not that important why did we endure austerity to ensure we kept out AAA rating according to Osborne. He failed it dropped and as now dropped again to AA-.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"If our credit rating is not that important why did we endure austerity to ensure we kept out AAA rating according to Osborne. He failed it dropped and as now dropped again to AA-.'"
Has it impacted the governments ability to raise funds via the issuing of bonds? The rest is just a vanity issue - Osborne had a view on austerity that had little to do with maintaining the UK's credit rating more about responsible spending. Hammond's view on austerity was a completely different issue.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Has it impacted the governments ability to raise funds via the issuing of bonds? The rest is just a vanity issue - Osborne had a view on austerity that had little to do with maintaining the UK's credit rating more about responsible spending. Hammond's view on austerity was a completely different issue.'"
Any reduction in the country's credit rating will increase the interest rates on the governments own borrowing - these were the words of the Troy government, when setting out the reasons for Austerity.
Are you now saying that maybe this wasn't the case ?
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| Credit rating is not really relevant for government bonds. Investors can easily assess the default risk for a government themselves, they don't need a credit agency to make the assessment for them in the way they may with a company they are considering investing in but about which they don't have much information.
Osborne used to bang on about the credit rating as a political tool with which to attack Labour. We had a AAA rating all through the Blair and Brown years, even when the deficit went up to record levels following the financial crisis and the bank bail outs. The irony was the credit rating agencies downgraded the UK in 2013 after 3 years of Osborne as Chancellor.
When there's a global recession and an increased risk across the board, there's usually a "flight to safety" ie investors dumping private sector assets and wanting to purchase government bonds instead, which drives up the price of the bond (and thus drives down the rate of interest on the bond). So UK government borrowing is likely to be at very low rates because the UK government is "relatively more safe" than most of the other risky assets out there.
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| I never received the letter from Johnson.
With regards the numbers announced the deaths will be correctly stated once the full figures are released rather than just those who unfortunately die in hospital. The problem is that the figure for those who have contracted the virus will never be declared accurately because they do not test everybody only those admitted to hospital.
We will probably have to endure a longer period of isolation because of the government’s testing strategy or lack of it. I wonder what the mood of the country will be if this is extended until the end of May at which point they may consider lessening some but maybe strengthening others.
Why was Johnson’s fiancé allowed to move home when we were instructed to stay in our residences.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Any reduction in the country's credit rating will increase the interest rates on the governments own borrowing - these were the words of the Troy government, when setting out the reasons for Austerity.
Are you now saying that maybe this wasn't the case ?'"
What I am saying is austerity was needed - Osborne used the credit rating as an externality of not doing something. Just as Brown used diversity of assets as an externality for selling all the gold at its lowest values for years when he did
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| We are told to stay in to save lives and the NHS which is fine but the government must also play its part by providing enough PPE to enable the NHS to keep working. They are good at threatening us but no so good at doing their bit.
I note that in today’s briefing the end would only be possible when they know where and who have had the virus. The only way to do this is with testing and even at the optimistic 100,000 a day that will take nearly a year to undertake and only then if they do not have to do multiple retests.
It would also appear that when they finally get to lessening the restrictions it will be based on those areas with the maximum number of confirmed cases like London. This means the more successful you are at social distancing and following the rules the longer you will need to stay in the home.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are told to stay in to save lives and the NHS which is fine but the government must also play its part by providing enough PPE to enable the NHS to keep working. They are good at threatening us but no so good at doing their bit.
I note that in today’s briefing the end would only be possible when they know where and who have had the virus. The only way to do this is with testing and even at the optimistic 100,000 a day that will take nearly a year to undertake and only then if they do not have to do multiple retests.
It would also appear that when they finally get to lessening the restrictions it will be based on those areas with the maximum number of confirmed cases like London. This means the more successful you are at social distancing and following the rules the longer you will need to stay in the home.'"
Do you believe even a third of the nonsense you type?
Where is this PPE mountain the UK Government are sat on?
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