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| Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "There have always been huge imbalances in sentencing - James Boulger's killers got 8 years never even getting to adult prison. Jon Venables has proved to be a psychopath in adult life. Lee Bowyer got nothing yet Chev Walker got time for virtually the same crime. When you have a system that relies on a judge for a sentence you will have inconsistencies. The problem with rape its one person's word against another who do you believe - both parties should either be named or not it is not fair that the man is named and woman not? This is not a new situation it goes back for ever.
Domestic violence is a different ball game and those men/women should be locked up for a long time as should those who perpetrate honour (sic) killings.
As for Johnson the press call him out all the time but its not a shock - sadly nobody believes any politician because you know when they are lying - their lips are moving the whole lot of them. MP's simply don't have any public respect at all.
Saturday could have been avoided nobody turns up - what are the police supposed to do? You can't fine a load of kids for an illegal rave yet allow thousands to congregate in a park and ignore it. Anyone who thinks there weren't deliberate agitators out to cause trouble is delusional - the ginger-haired lady in all the photos - I rest my case.'"
Yes there are imbalances in sentencing, no doubt whatsoever.
As you say, the judge has plenty of discretion and as such, some sentences seem to be wrong.
The point that Jess Phillips made was bang on the money and for people to to be given longer sentences for damaging public property , compared to rape or worse, seems crazy and it's interesting how influence can come from "above" in certain circumstances, also, the "quality" of the defence, which comes down to pound notes, will always be a major factor, which skews the justice system in favour of the better off.
As for the vigil on Saturday, it was nailed on to end badly and of course it did.
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| Looks like we can’t have peaceful protests now. Facism is well and truly alive in this country.
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| Quote: Willzay "Looks like we can’t have peaceful protests now. Facism is well and truly alive in this country.'"
protests that cry that all men are violent murderers and should not be allowed out after 6pm, doesn't sound peaceful to me, sounds a symptom of the ridiculous world created in recent times.
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| Quote: Willzay "Looks like we can’t have peaceful protests now. Facism is well and truly alive in this country.'"
A legal clampdown on protests, in advance of some new form of austerity, does make you wonder what is coming our way.
No question that there will be some very difficult choices, between tax increases (in whatever form they take) and cuts to public services and it would appear that, just as Thatcher clamped down on the Unions, Boris & Co are going to try and gag the masses, it should be interesting.
It has to be said that the Tory ethos would always be cuts in spending instead of tax increases and there is certainly a huge fiscal hole to fill.
Strangely, to get through the pandemic, they have adopted some strong socialist policies, with increases to benefits, the furlough scheme and a huge increase in public spending and it will be fascinating how they return to "normal".
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| Quote: WestEndThinker "sounds a symptom of the ridiculous world created in recent times.'"
Go protest about it, then...
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "FFS hpw many people have died due to Bojo's incompetence
About a tenth that died due to labours lies.
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| Quote: Steph Curry "About a tenth that died due to labours lies.'"
But nowhere near those enabled and facilitated by that useless Tory Neville Chamberlain
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| Quote: Steph Curry "About a tenth that died due to labours lies.'"
I'm just pleased that you're happy.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Strangely, to get through the pandemic, they have adopted some strong socialist policies, with increases to benefits, the furlough scheme and a huge increase in public spending and it will be fascinating how they return to "normal".'"
What we've seen is that policy is no longer important to many of their supporters - they can do things that Corbyn would have raised an eyebrow at but it's all about culture wars and Trump-style identity politics. Gin up and distract people enough with that stuff and they can do what they like really, ideology is dead.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm just pleased that you're happy.'"
Where did I say I was happy? Go on, show me. That’s right, you can’t. Unlucky.
But I will break it down for you. You are quite happy to harp on about a death toll that has been caused due to unprecedented circumstances whilst supporting a party that lied and in the process caused the deaths of millions of innocent people (I know that to you it doesn’t matter because they weren’t white, but still, that’s Labour supporters for you!)
That’s why Labour will never get in. You epitomise what is wrong with them
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| Quote: Steph Curry " "I know that to you it doesn’t matter because they weren’t white, but still, that’s Labour supporters for you"
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I love the way you just make things up and then state them as fact. I guess thats why you're attracted to the Russian sponsored adulterous serial liar.
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Where did I say I was happy? Go on, show me. That’s right, you can’t. Unlucky.
But I will break it down for you. You are quite happy to harp on about a death toll that has been caused due to unprecedented circumstances whilst supporting a party that lied and in the process caused the deaths of millions of innocent people (I know that to you it doesn’t matter because they weren’t white, but still, that’s Labour supporters for you!)
That’s why Labour will never get in. You epitomise what is wrong with them'"
How many have we helped in Yemen with our continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia.
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| Quote: silver2 "I love the way you just make things up and then state them as fact. I guess thats why you're attracted to the Russian sponsored adulterous serial liar.'"
What am I making up? Wrencat is so incensed about a worldwide pandemic that no one was prepared for but supports a party that lied through their teeth and caused the deaths of millions of innocent people from the Middle East.
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| Quote: Steph Curry "What am I making up? Wrencat is so incensed about a worldwide pandemic that no one was prepared for but supports a party that lied through their teeth and caused the deaths of millions of innocent people from the Middle East.'"
And it was voted through with an absolute majority. Plenty on all sides will have lined their pockets. Wars are profitable, after all.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "And it was voted through with an absolute majority. Plenty on all sides will have lined their pockets. Wars are profitable, after all.'"
I'm no defender of Blair or of the Labour Party but let's not forget that 99% of Conservative MPs voted for the Iraq war compared to 75% of Labour MPs.
100% of Liberal Democrats and 100% of SNP MPs, of course, voted against but I doubt 'Steph' supports either of them which makes the whole thing another bit of lazy trolling.
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