The one thing that no one seems to have commented on (I lost the will to live a bit back, but forced myself to skim on) is that surely the hospital should have had some sort of screening system in place, even if it was just a big piece of paper saying 'DO NOT GIVE OUT DETAILS, NO MATTER WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE ON THE PHONE'.

This alone is amiss, and therefore obviously part of the coverup at the top.....

Kill it, it's garbage i have to keep reading every time someone posts a new message about the same thing over and over again.

You need to give up lying as you are rubbish at it. However I'm pleased you've given up denying you originally queried; "...was it even suicide".
Anyway, back to your latest effort. Your previous actual words wereAnything could have tipped her over the edge into a successful suicide attempt. It is just unfortunate it was the actions of a radio station.'"

FA... you're starting to sound a lot like me when I get my teeth into something.

Not acknowledging the possibility of being wrong? Check.

Picking and choosing which bits to argue with? Check

Not noticing that you're slowly being ridiculed? Check....

Charges very unlikely, unsurprisingly.

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Quite right too.

Aye.


No. That's one possibility I'm always open to. On this one, though I'm not especially claiming to be "right" about anything. I do have the opinion that the radio station management acted appallingly and that is a view that is not capable of being changed, as that just IS my opinion. And will remain so whether they face any worse consequences than they already have, or no more. But it's perfectly reasonable to have a firm view, most people do, I think.


Actually I reckon the exact opposite is one of my faults. If I was much more selective, my responses would be much shorter. I acknowledge a tendency to have to rebut each point that is to me plainly wrong.


Hardly. The two muppets doing the attempts at "ridicule" aren't exactly being subtle. To me, the particular puerile comments are just embarrassing to them. If they want to show themselves up I don't care. ATEOTD I don't think being of the firm opinion that the radio station management acted very badly; and that whilst they did not kill her, had they not chosen to run the tape, she would almost certainly be alive today and getting on with her conscientious day to day nursing job at which she was reportedly 'outstanding', is even capable of being "ridiculed". But if you disagree, I'd be interested to know what bits you think are ridiculous?

But as I do regularly ridicule the ridiculous, I could hardly object to that tactic. The thing about ridicule is, it only works if your target audience agrees that the object is worthy of ridicule. Otherwise you just show yourself up as an ignorant boor, eg Durham Giant. Like on this thread, I have ridiculed the conspiracists ("a very convenient death"; "was it even suicide"icon_wink.gif. I suppose the difference is whether views, such as those, merit ridicule, as opposed to poor attempts at ridicule being used as a last resort by people who have run out of sensible ways to defend their position, so then descend to offensive remarks to smokescreen their embarrassment.

"Oh, that God the gift would give us
To see ourselves as others see us" ....... Robert Burns

Yet you accuse others of being puerile and insulting

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You wrote this at the time when everyone in the media and the usual idiots were demanding sackings prosecutions and making death threats but you insist you were not on any bandwagon.

The crux of your argument seems to be that you have not moved from your original position and that you were above all of the bandwagon jumpers and should be seen as some sort of ethereal being floating above everyone else
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And this was at the time you accused wheels of [sizespeculation[/size



This was two days before information came out about the Nurse previously trying to kill herself twice this year

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You wrote this when most people were accepting that her mental health must have been a major factor in what happened. Yet anyone who thinks that her Mental health in some way contributed to what happened is SICK.



Yet when i suggested that we cannot say it was suicide until the inquest makes the decision you tried to ridicule that position.


And this was at the time you denied that you were looking to blame people.

You start insulting people and then complain when others do it to you.

You already suffer from knee jerk reactions, have little insight into your actions, think people are out to get you with insults and have grandiose ideas that anyone is remotely bothered about what you say when you have been shown up.

I am just enjoying the sport with you if anyone seems to have got their knickers in a twist it is you.

I have to say you are exhibiting elements of both neurosis and psychosis have you been assessed by your local mental health team as you have some characteristics of Borderline personality disorder.

so to call people morons is not insulting.

My objection was people making unequivocal claims about that particular person's mental health prior to the prank incident. I did not say they were trying to be a psychiatrist, in general but that unless they were HER psychiatrist, in particular, they obviously don't know the state of her mental health in early December 2012. Does that make it clear?

I believe the survival instinct is a default position, when faced with a life threatening situation. I don't think it has much at all to do with suicide cases. It is a fact that a million people a year or more override that to take their own lives. If you want to believe that a person takes their own live, [iergo[/i they had "significant mental issues", you'd be wrong. They might, of course, but not at all necessarily. And [iattempting[/i suicide is often a "cry for help" or attention, to coin a phrase. [iActually killing yourself[/i is - contrary to your belief - often a cold and calculated considered act, 100% "in control". [sizeIt is often a choice.[/size

From what evidence I have read, this lady was not "out of control". She seems to have thought it through right down to her funeral arrangements. What you are saying is that [ibecause[/i an adult hangs him or herself, they are mentally "out of control". This is a complete misunderstanding, you don't have to be mentally ill to kill yourself, and you can kill yourself without being "out of control".'"