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Quote: Standee "

what to do?'"


Challenge them to a game of Dodgeball?

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The brutal murders of western hostages ,while obscene are of relatively small consequence when compared to the attrocities carried out against the local populations of Syria and Iraq ,it is those that should drive the civilised worlds quest to rid us of this evil

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Quote: Starbug "The brutal murders of western hostages ,while obscene are of relatively small consequence when compared to the attrocities carried out against the local populations of Syria and Iraq ,it is those that should drive the civilised worlds quest to rid us of this evil'"

Spot on

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Quote: Starbug "The brutal murders of western hostages ,while obscene are of relatively small consequence when compared to the attrocities carried out against the local populations of Syria and Iraq ,it is those that should drive the civilised worlds quest to rid us of this evil'"


Unfortunately IS know that a couple of thousand wo[ig[/is or ra[ig[/iheads meeting a grisly end will not even register on the radar of most of the western population.

That's precisely why they upped their game.

The western press are now giving IS what they have craved - the oxygen of publicity. It's a high-risk strategy that has got a great many of the Islamic world against them. The responsive upping of the "allies" game has also ensured that IS can play the "Crusade against Islam" to great efect and attract even more "true believers" to their cause

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Quote: Dally "Those things have no relevance to British society. The IS thing does as British citizens are apparently acting murderously for IS and intent on attacking British citizens.'"

but why should other British Muslims who have no connection to these IS recruits other than practising the same major world religion (along with over a billion other humans) be associated with them?

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Quote: the cal train "but why should other British Muslims who have no connection to these IS recruits other than practising the same major world religion (along with over a billion other humans) be associated with them?'"


Because they are British citizens. Why the apparent reticence until now to unreservedly condemn IS when as you say they have no association with them?

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Quote: Dally "Because they are British citizens. Why the apparent reticence until now to unreservedly condemn IS when as you say they have no association with them?'"

Has the RFL condemned IS yet?

British Muslims condemned IS months ago.

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Quote: Him "British Muslims condemned IS months ago.'"


What. All of them?

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Quote: Rooster Booster "What. All of them?'"

The major organisations and leaders did.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "What. All of them?'"


Yes, every single one of them. Likewise every Jew, Protestant, Catholic, Wesleyan, Hindu and Buddhist did too. A couple of Jains were "Don't knows"

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Quote: cod'ead "Yes, every single one of them. Likewise every Jew, Protestant, Catholic, Wesleyan, Hindu and Buddhist did too. A couple of Jains were "Don't knows"'"

it's those darned procrastinators we need to get one board, get them, we have a majority.

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So, the answer was no. Not all of them.

Ta.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "So, the answer was no. Not all of them.

Ta.'"

were they meant to all sign a form agreeing to the statement "I condemn ISIS"? When was this carried out, I didn't hear anything about it?

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Quote: Rooster Booster "So, the answer was no. Not all of them.

Ta.'"

Were they all supposed to?

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It's easy to bash the American press and almost all the criticism is deserved. And yet I have more respect for, say, the Washington Post <fx: hack ... spit!> than the amusingly titled "Left Wing" British media who actually treat IS as though it is some kind of existential Moral Challenge foisted upon "Our Great Nation & The World" by Islam reeling under the assault of Western Freedom & Democracy.

I can't tell you the glut of self-righteous poppycock which has spewed out of The Guardian and The Independent since the terrifying spectre of IS first emerged. Anyone might think they could call upon six carrier battle groups, seventeen long-range bomber wings, thirty divisions of scimitar wielding desert warriors, all of which commanded from secret CNC installations in hollowed out mountains (presumably dug by Osama's Bond-Villain-Lairs-R-Us construction company) and supported by a plethora of super-secret stealth satellites, uber hackers and nuclear shielded comms.

But I guess it's always easier to find the truth in the pages of an imperial press. After all, the British Empire had its fair share of politicians and journalists who actually believed imperial expansion was nothing to be ashamed of. It's much harder to find substantial support among people living in a client state - not least because you invariably end up doing all of the work for none of the rewards.

Which makes the necessity to dream up noble rhetorical causes all the more pressing. And, boy, our papers turn such into an art form.

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