Again, I agree with you, but I was referring to the fact that Standee thinks most of Europe is under a similar style of governance to Uganda, or any country using a holy book to dictate their population's lives.

While many religeons have issues with primarily sexual preferences and activity, only 1 ( and a tiny minority of it ) has openly declared that all who dont follow it should die

So who would that be

I take it you're a Religious person, hence, can see no wrong in how it dictates lives and laws in the West.

Shopping hours on a Sunday...

1) A religion is not a person (who - WTF?)

2) Misinterpreting a religion is not the fault of the religion, it is the fault of the individual.

Peter Sutcliffe was from Bradford but only a fool would try to blame Bradford for Peter Sutcliffe

Quote: cod'ead "1) A religion is not a person (who - WTF?) 2) Misinterpreting a religion is not the fault of the religion, it is the fault of the individual. Peter Sutcliffe was from Bradford but only a fool would try to blame Bradford for Peter Sutcliffe'" 100% agreed anyone who doubts how stupid religion is, should have a listen to this (or go see it) saw this on Saturday evening in the West End, if you have time, listen to it (NSFW/kids) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... CqJ_9vFxRo

Quote: cod'ead "1) A religion is not a person (who - WTF?) 2) Misinterpreting a religion is not the fault of the religion, it is the fault of the individual. Peter Sutcliffe was from Bradford but only a fool would try to blame Bradford for Peter Sutcliffe'" 100% agreed anyone who doubts how stupid religion is, should have a listen to this (or go see it) saw this on Saturday evening in the West End, if you have time, listen to it (NSFW/kids) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... CqJ_9vFxRo

No, I'm not a religious person, but I can easily live without doing a bit of extra grocery shopping on a Sunday..... However, I'm not sure living without my head for the 'crime' of not choosing to follow a certain faith would be as simple?

your total lack of understanding of the situation is noted.

Its good that you mention Tony Blair, converted Catholic, in this paragraph - now what was it that he said again about making his mind up whether or not to invade Iraq (and all that followed), something about asking his God what he should do, something which he also shared with his buddy George Jnr, presumably they both had the same hotline to their God and their God, he say "Yes".

Is that how Blair sold it to Parliament then?.....

Nah, a group of people actually sat there and debated whether to go to war. Unfortunately, they decided to go ahead.

Now whether God brainwashed all those guys too, I don't know, but I'm pretty certain Tony didn't stand up on the day and say 'Its what God wants, lads'.

If Blair openly admits to praying to god for guidance, then that's his own lookout, but I'm still pretty certain we don't use holy books to make our laws, unlike in some other countries around the world......

..... 'Right everybody, human rights.... Now it says in Matthew, Chapter....' .....

...... Of course it impacts, we are historically a very Christian country, so like we have many fantastic religious relics scattered over our land, we will have laws and traditions that have their roots in that faith.

However, I still don't think much of Parliament's business is carried out under the strict guidance of the Bible.

And is that a bad thing or do you suggest we extinguish all our links with our Christian past? - Knock down all the cathedrals and churches throughout the land?.... Outlaw Christmas and Easter?

Surely there is nothing wrong with taking guidance from, or keeping the traditions of, the past, even if they stem from a Christian root, if it is serving some sort of positive in society in general?..... That is a massive difference from a society which uses religious books to form great sections of their laws, many of which are associated with punishments only fit for the Stone Age, which is what happens in many strict Muslim countries, and, indeed, in some extreme Christian countries too.

Another display of compassion by ISis