Because the only thing "new" about the 5 is the model number.

It's really not though is it.

so what is actually new?

There is nothing ground breaking though.

There is nothing (that works in the UK) in the new iPhone that isn't in competing phones, iPhones used to set the benchmark for other phones, it is now playing catch up. The biggest downer with iPhones is battery life, this still hasn't been addressed.

New connector


new larger retina display,
lighter
new processor
nano sim
4g/LTE
Better battery
upgraded camera

it's an upgrade just as all the other iterations have been which is all its meant to be, Im not sure why people were expecting something totally groundbreaking.

The phone isn't technically the best phone on the market, part from the first version (which basically changed the mobile phone market) the iPhone has always been inferior technically to other phones on the market, I suppose people are paying for the iOS software and the design and build quality. As I said before there is a lot of competition and a lot of choice in the phone market dont like the iPhone's specs or software get another brand.

FWIW I won't be getting an iPhone5, Im waiting till my cr@ppy contract with 3 runs out and ill be getting a SIM only contract as I'm sick of paying through the nose to be tied in a contract.

I totally agree, although Since getting a 4S I must say it hasn't bothered me that much, all the precious ones the battery life was shocking.

It's coming to something when you list those as new features



I've still got a full sized sim card, I feel like I'm stuck in the 80s.

its a feature, and it's new

That is a problem with pretty much every device. That is the most important new technology advance for me. If someone could come up with a phone as good as the S3, iphone, Lumias and it had three or four day battery life, I'd be sold. Most phones will last less than a day even when not used and will not last more than a couple of hours when doing things like navigation, browsing, streaming and playing music.

are you really ever that far away from somewhere you can charge it though?

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that SCSI used to be used like that. Although Apple dropped SCSI for FireWire.
As FireWire came out in, what, 1995? I'd guess there was a reasonable period when both were available?

I think everyone and their cat is downloading iOS6...

I'll give it a week or two before I even attempt to download it onto my ithings.

indeed, let everyone else do Apple's BETA testing for them

Downloaded iOS 6 and Apple are so deserving of the stick they are getting for the 'Maps' app, it's not very good at all, hopefully it will be updated quickly. I used street view quite often in Google Maps and its not in maps, it also doesn't find places very accurately, definite fail from Apple on this one. Other than that its an OK update, not that much change from iOS 5.

Also, You Tube app is also gone - don't upgrade to iOS6 is my advice.

I was waiting for a Jailbreak anyway...

Just use the official free YouTube app from the app store. It's much better anyway

Looking at my upgrades with Orange, the Samsung S3 (too big anyway) is £149.99, the Samsung S2 (also a bit too big) is £109.99, the HTC One X is £109.99, etc - basically all the top spec phones cost, while the rest are free.

And the brand spanking new iPhone 5 16GB and 32GB is also free.



Despite my best intentions, I actually considered joining the iPhone gang. But I probably won't, I'll shop around, plenty of people offering other options cheap as chips.

Wouldn't bother at all if my HTC Desire hadn't gradually been slowing down over the last few months to the point where even Paul Wellens would now give it a run for its money.

That must be a mistake. The iphone is the most expensive handset there is and there is no way a network would deliberately hand them out for £110 less than a cheaper handset.

Indeed, T-Mob is doing the SIII free on the £26 a month contract.

Anyone know of a good app for android phones to free up space so i can move apps to my sd card? Galaxy Ace does not let you do this.... cheers

Nope, it's still there. I can upgrade to the iPhone 5 16GB & 32GB models free. Perhaps Apple have chucked some money at them? Or it might be something to do with pushing 4G? No idea. I don't spend much, my tariff is only £26 a month, but it's there in black & white.

It's almost worth upgrading, selling, then paying for something else.

In fact, looking at the prices on eBay, that's not a bad idea.

Do it, that is an unbeleivable deal.

You can only upgrade to an iPhone 5 on Orange if you choose one of their specific 'iPhone' tariffs, all of which pretty much rip you off.
The reason the other handsets you mentioned cost money to upgrade to is because you can keep your existing tariff whith those phones.

Seriously thinking about ditching Orange and just going with giffgaff.