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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"You do understand that rocket attacks are against individuals (even though Israel admitted Hamas cracked down on militant groups) whilst a blockade hurts every single Palestinian in Gaza? You are aware of the current "living" conditions in Gaza because of that blockade?
And you think that's a commensurate response? I'd expect someone from the Waffen SS to argue this point in relation to the Warsaw Ghetto, BTW.'"
Really? Which individuals are they aimed against? Do we have a list of names? If so they really should be released before hand so everyone else can go about their day without worrying they might be killed or maimed by, what up until today, was thought to be indiscriminate rocket and mortar fire.
The Palestinian rocket and mortar fire aimed at civilians, is also a flagrant breach of international law, you can't condemn Israel for breaching international law, but sympathise with the Palestinians for doing so.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"You do understand that rocket attacks are against individuals'"
Really? I know 'smart weapons' have come a long way but I had no idea that they were that sophisticated. What target discrimination system do they use? How is the blast radius constrained?
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| Do I really need to explain the difference between mostly home-made rockets which are capable of killing individuals (1 to 5 or maybe 10) and cutting many of the most essential supplies to EVERYONE in the Gaza Strip?
I see that I do.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Do I really need to explain the difference between mostly home-made rockets which are capable of killing individuals (1 to 5 or maybe 10) and cutting many of the most essential supplies to EVERYONE in the Gaza Strip?
I see that I do.'"
Let me guess, you want to pretend that the Gaza blockade is a form of collective punishment whilst the indisciminate launch of rockets (the fact the Palestinians dont have very good ones is pretty irrelevant, an incompetant murderer isnt morally better or worse than a competant one) and mortar rounds (circa a hundred today apparently) isnt.
So what is this supposed to teach us? THat It is morally more acceptable for Israel to bomb palestine back to the stone-age, launching hundreds of rockets a day and killing indiscriminately than it is for the to continue their blockade?
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| What about that wall the Israelis built a few years ago ? That's illegal but they won't budge on it.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Let me guess, you want to pretend that the Gaza blockade is a form of collective punishment'"
It IS a form of collective punishment.
Quote SmokeyTA whilst the indisciminate launch of rockets (the fact the Palestinians dont have very good ones is pretty irrelevant, an incompetant murderer isnt morally better or worse than a competant one) and mortar rounds (circa a hundred today apparently) isnt. '"
Israel has no intention of negotiating and will not cease until it controls all of the Gaza strip and West Bank. How much of the West Bank has it stolen already?
The Palestinians have a choice - die or fight. They're fighting.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Do I really need to explain the difference between mostly home-made rockets which are capable of killing individuals (1 to 5 or maybe 10) and cutting many of the most essential supplies to EVERYONE in the Gaza Strip?
I see that I do.'"
I think you just consigned yourself to your own drawer.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Israel has no intention of negotiating'"
And you think that Hamas does?
If some miracle were to occur and Israel suddenly and completely complied with all it's obligations under international law, do you really believe that the rocket attacks would stop?
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| You really need to be able to perform superhuman feats of twisted logic to think 1 civilian death is equally as bad as 400.
I salute you.
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| [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kPe5zcTjH4"There was NO WAR in GAZA, it was a MASSACRE"[/url
I'd call it closer to extermination.
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| When someone has the clear intention of 'wiping you off the face of the earth' and then keeps lobbing rockets into your back garden, what the hell are you supposed to do. I don't blame Isreal for responding and its pointless doing so unless you are going to show them you mean business. Hamas are a blood thirsty bunch of terrorists and the people who voted for them have to also shoulder the blame as they new what they would do, after all it was the equivalent to a manifesto pledge.
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