There's no link between Gove's defence of it and the fact that his wife writes for it ...

I made the same point on Twitter yesterday. Gove really is an obvious, odious man.

Alastair Campbell has an online petition urging Dacre to debate the issue. Just signed it. Hope everyone else does too! Keep the pressure on them while they're feeling the heat.

Don't know. Although it's interesting that he's backed down so quickly on the memorial service business.

Still, Dacre is editor in chief of all the titles, so whether that will cause an internal row ...

There's far from any certainty that the [iMail[/i will get any better if/when Dacre goes - presumably, Rothermere approves of the paper's general performance most of the time.

I already signed it. I watched Campbell rip the assistant Editor to shreds last night on You Tube.

I suppose that depends if he is more interested in the politics and line it takes or the money it makes and if it changed tack and still continued to make money if he cared.

Typical Rlfans logic.

If someone disagrees with you label them 'thick' or 'unable to comprehend'. Not point engaging with the rest of your post. It is obvious you are someone who is utterly intolerant to everyone who has a different opinion to yourself and the abuse will soon follow.

Are you describing Paul Dacre?

You have to admire the stinking hypocrisy of Dave O.

Today he says

and



But on April 11, when talking about the recently deceased Margaret Thatcher he said

and....




Please remind me Dave O, when did Margaret Thatcher have the opportunity to defend herself against your comments?

Is it ok for you to slate the dead? Just not anyone else right? Is that how it works?

Marxism is a vile ideology that has been rejected by the vast majority of countries in this world. The fact that the North Koreans choose to display large posters of Karl Marx on government buildings tells you all you need to know about its messed up aims and values. These same aims and values are incompatible with British values of democracy and freedom.

Ralph Milliband was a staunch Marxist whose views didn't appear to change much between the age of 17 and when he died. Whether he 'hated Britain' or not is unclear - I suspect the only man who can answer that definitively is the man himself who is dead. What is clear however is that Marxism is incompatible with British values. Whether this equates to him hating Britain is debatable.

The people lauding Alastair Campbell are embarrassing. How this bloke gets airtime on serious television programmes is beyond me. He doesn't destroy anyone by political debate. He shouts them down and doesn't let his 'opponent' answers any questions he puts to them. If this kind of 'debate' leads you to think he has somehow won the argument / beaten his opponent you are somewhat mistaken.

You don't know what Marxism is.

Despite being reminded several times last night that Milliband Snr formed his political views in a very different world to the one in which you, and his son, currently live, you seem to be still hammering away under the impression that the son must naturally bear the father's views in exactly the same context as the father did - 70 years later.

You also seem to struggle with the concept that a man who joined the armed services to fight for his adopted country during one of the bloodiest conflicts known to mankind could surely not also and at the same time be hating that country that he was prepared to die for ?

Unless you're just playing with yourself every time you get a reply ?

I've just said "whether this equates to him hating Britain is debatable".

There is evidence to support both 'hate' and 'non hate' theories in my opinion. The only person that really knew is the man himself.

Double post, sorry.