He's not suggesting that though, is he? Just saying someone will be going there rather than to the Eagles game. Kick off time should definitely be moved though as lots of people will want to watch the England game, if you consider it's not only a home nations game but a Euro qualifier, it's a pretty big game. Wednesday are kicking off at 1pm in Dagenham to allow people to watch both games. Bit of a pain in the butt for people who'd already booked their train tickets mind!

But irrelevant to the choice of kick off time.

If we assume that Toulouse are arriving on Friday and leaving Sunday, then the kick off time on Saturday is flexible, assuming United agree the change. A 6pm kick off would mean using the floodlights, if that makes any difference.

After the debacle in South Africa, that was me done with the England football team. I don't give a toss what happens in the game, although I hate losing enything to Wales.

Whenever you play. somebody will always find something else to do.

It's not just "something else" though is it Griff? As I explained in my previous post it's a pretty big game and anyone who takes an interest in football will probably want to watch it, I understand you probably don't and that's fair enough.

As for "being done" with England, I'll never give up on my country, no matter how bad we get! I'm proud to be English and will support my country in one of my favourite sports whether we're beating the Brazilians or fighting for a draw against Montenegro. They're crap but they're my crap. Bit like Wednesday, and Eagles sometimes!!

Wales v England is a big game ?



How far have we fallen ?

Not because we're playing Wales on the basis of their footballing ability, it's the context of the game. As far as internationals go, it's a local Derby. If Wednesday played Rotherham I wouldn't see it as a bigger game than us playing Gillingham for example, but there would be a much bigger crowd for obvious reasons, the local aspect. Add that to the fact it's a qualifier for a major tournament, a qualifying campaign we're so far unbeaten in and one in which Wales desparately need a win...it's a big game, and people will want to watch it. Let's hope this isn't refelcted in the attendance too much.

It's a funny one really,Theres so much varied sport on the weekend now,Theres always somthing to watch,agree with Eso that its not just an ordianry game,My 1st love is football but will be going to the Eagles game as not bothered enough to watch the England game over the Eagles game,Years gone by i would have chosen the England game without thinking but times move on,I would have liked to watch the England v Scotland game sunday when the Eagles game was on

But i made my choice,Taped it and watched it when i got in,I'll be doing the same that day.

at least you're consistent ! - supporting crap teams !

Dont like to leave ESO on his own,I also support crap teams

what's the capacity of Hillsborough nowadays ? in the good old days when I used to go up to follow the mighty Spurs or Canaries it was quite substantial,holding it's fair share of Cup semi finals etc along with Villa Park etc
Holding the FA cup semis at Wembley is a joke IMO

Easy - Wembley cost 495 billion pounds to build so they have to play them there. Plus where else could you hold City v United and get all the fans who want to see the game into the stadium?

Stoke v Bolton could be held at Old Trafford if it wasn't for the money issue. The fans will still cough up I suspect. At some point the cost of tickets and travel will break even the most dedicated fan's bank balance and they'll stop going. But for now, football will keep milking the willing cow.

If only rugby league had this problem. We have problems getting anybody to turn up to any Challenge Cup game, except the final.

We need a bit of confidence in our product.

If we keep trying to avoid other events, we'll end up kicking off at 12 pm on a Thursday night.