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| Quote: chapster "Quote: chapster "
oh dear your struggling arnt you??
ok i presume you understand the mcdonalds analogy from earlier on?
lets say a burger frier is need in lets say, oh i dont know newporrt, and ones available, in lets say america, you there so far?
now the suitablity gor employment and appropriate refences forms are going to be signed in.........???
a......newport
b......america
now what your implying is the council for british fast foods will have had an input......but you see they wont....because they are niether the employer on r the one prividing the references'" '"
Do the Council for British fast food have a salary cap on take-aways expenditure on wages? Is there such a thing as an ineligible waiter?
The RFL were supposed to be vetting the Crusaders salary cap and yet the players seem to have been paid for non-existent jobs at Samuel's company and gave their services to Crusaders for free.
If the RFL were aware that this was the case then they are complicit and if they weren't then their policing of the salary cap is a joke.
Not to mention that they are supposed to make sure that players are eligible to play for the club that they represent.
At the very least, they look extremely incompetant.
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| Quote: chapster "Quote: chapster "Quote: chapster "
oh dear your struggling arnt you??
ok i presume you understand the mcdonalds analogy from earlier on?
lets say a burger frier is need in lets say, oh i dont know newporrt, and ones available, in lets say america, you there so far?
now the suitablity gor employment and appropriate refences forms are going to be signed in.........???
a......newport
b......america
now what your implying is the council for british fast foods will have had an input......but you see they wont....because they are niether the employer on r the one prividing the references'" '" '"
I take it this answer means you have never been involved in bringing a Proffessional RL player to a club in this country
Read my profile
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "At the very least, they look extremely incompetant.'"
But guess what? That's totally different to knowingly employing illegal immigrants!
And the salary cap has nothing whatsoever to do with the Borders Agency.
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| Quote: Grendel "But let's see what is likely to happen next.
You don't need to be Mystic Meg (or someone who can actually see into the future) to see what's coming.
The RFL will be forced to dock us our few meagre points. Though there is no relegation, they will have to kick us out of SL next year or be damned for gross hypocrisy.
We will be dropped down to the lower leagues. It is unlikely our academy and reserves team will survive the drop, given the nervousness of our benefactor.
Brewery Field limited have been shafted by the Crusaders moving games away from there and will be in no mood to welcome them back when the Newport deal falls through (because Dave Parade will not want to have a lower leagues team playing there) so we will be a team without a ground.
Rest In Peace Crusaders. For a while there it was fun.'"
I don't think this will happen but it would be a blessing on Crusaders if it did happen.
This season was bad enough but imagine the next season with half the first team gone and possibly no replacements from down under.
I can't see this endeering them to the Newport public.
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| Quote: mishmash "So are you trying to say that 6 players have all - independently - made the same mistake on their visa applications? And then no one has noticed that the said 6 forms all have errors? Stay off the drugs pal - they addle the brain!!
No. They could have all lied, stoopid.
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "Quote: Hedgehog King "
Do the Council for British fast food have a salary cap on take-aways expenditure on wages? Is there such a thing as an ineligible waiter?
The RFL were supposed to be vetting the Crusaders salary cap and yet the players seem to have been paid for non-existent jobs at Samuel's company and gave their services to Crusaders for free.
If the RFL were aware that this was the case then they are complicit and if they weren't then their policing of the salary cap is a joke.
Not to mention that they are supposed to make sure that players are eligible to play for the club that they represent.
and your point is they have been deported for working some additional hours somewhere?? the salary cap... to quote the parrot sketch ..dont enter into it!
but im loving this thred now they are being deported for not playing rugby!!!!
pm starbuck he thinks its espionage, i mean get bruce willis on board and die hard 5 will be the greatest rl movie ever
please dont add things to my quotes and change the references...ok?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "No. They could have all lied, stoopid.'"
......And you could be totally wrong stoopid!!
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| Quote: chapster "starbuck he thinks its espionage, i mean get bruce willis on board and die hard 5 will be the greatest rl movie ever '"
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| Quote: SaintsFan "But guess what? That's totally different to knowingly employing illegal immigrants!'"
It's not.
The RFL don't employ Crusaders players but they are supposed to check that sums paid to players actually have been paid and there is no funny business with money being paid "under the table".
If Dekor were paying the players rather than Crusaders then this makes a mockery of the salary cap.
Why can't JJB pay Wigan players and then Warriors can sign who they want and pay them what they want?
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And the salary cap has nothing whatsoever to do with the Borders Agency.'"
On the contrary, it seems that players were being paid by somebody other than their club.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: SaintsFan "But guess what? That's totally different to knowingly employing illegal immigrants!
And the salary cap has nothing whatsoever to do with the Borders Agency.'"
Given that Francis Meli had a few problems getting back into this country earlier this year are you suggesting that Eamon did not get his lawyer to assist mr Meli in sorting out the problem and that he did not at any time speak to the RFL on the subject ?
" Sorry Francis , you're on your own son "
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| Quote: mishmash "......And you could be totally wrong stoopid!!'"
Yes, I know I could! I'm not saying I couldn't! But nor am I [iassuming[/i that the club is guilty of something before the investigations have been completed! You and many others on here have already judged the club guilty of a criminal act by assuming they have had a hand in what has happened. My mind is open. It could be solely the players or the players and the club. But why be so negative? Why jump to negative conclusions?
It's all bitterness and petty jealousy and very embarrassing for the rest of rugby league to witness.
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| Quote: chapster "and your point is they have been deported for working some additional hours somewhere?? the salary cap... to quote the parrot sketch ..dont enter into it!
but im loving this thred now they are being deported for not playing rugby!!!!'"
Err no my point is that a work permit entitles you to work for a particular employer and it doesn't allow you to seek employment elsewhere.
If they were employed by Dekor then they ought to have been working for Dekor and playing amateur rugby. The problem is that they were (theoretically) employed by Dekor or on student visas yet playing professional sport which they had no legal right to do.
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| Quote: Starbug "Given that Francis Meli had a few problems getting back into this country earlier this year are you suggesting that Eamon did not get his lawyer to assist mr Meli in sorting out the problem and that he did not at any time speak to the RFL on the subject ?'"
I would be very surprised that that happened not least because this is Meli's third season with us so he well knows the procedure by now. I'm sure he took legal advice in his own country given that the rules changed while he was home for Christmas but at the end of the day it was Meli's responsibility to fill in the forms, truthfully and correctly, and no-one else's.
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "It's not.
The RFL don't employ Crusaders players but they are supposed to check that sums paid to players actually have been paid and there is no funny business with money being paid "under the table".
If Dekor were paying the players rather than Crusaders then this makes a mockery of the salary cap.
Why can't JJB pay Wigan players and then Warriors can sign who they want and pay them what they want?
On the contrary, it seems that players were being paid by somebody other than their club.'"
ooooooooooh thats new!!!
i think you about to get slaughtered for using wigam as a reference especailly wher the rl started paying international players.
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| Quote: chapster "ooooooooooh thats new!!!
i think you about to get slaughtered for using wigam as a reference especailly wher the rl started paying international players.'"
It might if the RFL were paying players to play for their own clubs.
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