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Goodness, people with an agenda against crusaders!!!
Who'd of thought it? It's called the real world guys! Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
Any ideas why? (and by the way this is about your club, not your supporters, don't take it as personal)

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Quote: kinleycat "Goodness, people with an agenda against crusaders!!!
Who'd of thought it? It's called the real world guys! Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
Any ideas why? (and by the way this is about your club, not your supporters, don't take it as personal)'"


Nice of you to jump in with both feet without knowing what the actual posts are about. However this is not about some "flat cappers" having a rant about Crusaders being in the SL. It's about how people in Wrexham feel about the owners of the Soccer club also being the owners of a rugby club.

For your information, a small section of Wrexham FC fans are resentful of the ground being shared with the rugby club, some of them are fearful that more people will go to the rugby than the soccer and the already struggling team will suffer. There is also some resentment (even hatred) of the owners by a small number of WFC supporters who feel that more could be done to assist WFC climb back up the league ladder.

Maybe it would be handy to do a bit of research into a topic before replying in such a sarcastic manner. Or maybe it's just that you love to have a dig at Crusaders.

Perhaps you would like to contribute to this thread in a sensible way, if not, why not crawl back under your stone and await your next opportunity to Troll.

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Hello Brasshat, nice to see a friendly 'face' here.

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Quote: DemonUK "Noticed on the Red Passion MB (Wrexham FC) that the club is still in the hands of the administrator ie Roberts and Moss haven't as of 16th December, completed the purchase despite promises that it was all sorted and would be completed over a week ago. I also noticed that Mr Roberts is not held in very high regard around Wrexham.'"



Completed now, www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=3443 does that make you happier?
Quote: DemonUK "Noticed on the Red Passion MB (Wrexham FC) that the club is still in the hands of the administrator ie Roberts and Moss haven't as of 16th December, completed the purchase despite promises that it was all sorted and would be completed over a week ago. I also noticed that Mr Roberts is not held in very high regard around Wrexham.'"



Completed now, www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=3443 does that make you happier?


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Brasshat, as a supporter of a flat cap club I weren't having a dig at them!!
I was merely pointing out it's not just flatcappers that don't like you, it's supporters of your "current" landlords.
Apologies, as I keep pointing out to your clubs supporters, but your club makes a mockery of this league, a dig? You bet!!!
You my friend are clueless, but then again on this almost desolate forum?? What else!!!
No doubt empty forum such as this indicate success to the RFL!!!!
Like empty grounds, no grounds, no money, bankrupcey, playing illegal players, playing more foreign players than your oppononents, being bankrolled, not being held account to your debts........... c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif
you lot just don't get it, your a toy, your not serious, give it a rest, it's embarrasing!!!!!!

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Quote: kinleycat "
Like empty grounds, no grounds, no money, bankrupcey, playing illegal players, playing more foreign players than your oppononents, being bankrolled, not being held account to your debts........... You didn't! Tell me you didn't just do that! icon_lol.gif
You, a Wakefield fan, didn't seriously seriously just try and take the p1ss out of another club for:
- having an empty ground
- having no ground
- having no money
- playing foreign players
- being bankrolled
and having debts!
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Crusaders have a stadium to play in in the future, have never gone bankrupt, have never cancelled several players contracts and have much more potential than the current hole Wakefield are in. All this without the benefit of 100 years of heritage and history in which to build up a brand, something that Wakefield have massively failed to do even in their own town.

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In answer
1) only have an empty ground when crusaders, quins and catalans come! Our average gate is around 7k (which should be better!!) in a ground that holds 10k, 70% occupancy, +30% more than SL franchise rules.
2) We have a ground for this season, obviously our hopes for 2012 have hit the buffers however we have an agreement to play at "a" ground that meets SL standards for 3 years.
3) we have the amount of money we have, end of, we employ players and staff we can afford, we don't need £700k of RFL employees to keep us going (god we could do with it!!)
4) we have to stay within RFL guidelines, crusaders have their own, and have not been punished for their "illegal aliens"
5) if only we could be bankrolled by the RFL or anyone!!!!
6) the debts re HMRC are regarding image rights, this will affect all clubs, to a greater or lesser extent. We were picked first as one of the weeker clubs, they wouldn't of tried it with Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc.
The only reason crusaders are in SL is because it is the wish of SL, if it was down to a level playing field they would never have made SL, if it was down to fair play and a promotion and relegation system, they wouldn't have lasted, FACT!!!!
Rant over.

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Quote: kinleycat "

1) only have an empty ground when crusaders, quins and catalans come! Our average gate is around 7k (which should be better!!) in a ground that holds 10k, 70% occupancy, +30% more than SL franchise rules.
even your team didn't manage to turn up in time for the kick off at Wrexham, our team had fallen asleep hours before your team showed up.
2) We have a ground for this season, obviously our hopes for 2012 have hit the buffers however we have an agreement to play at "a" ground that meets SL standards for 3 years.
your ground was built long before the arrival of the Celtic Crusaders in Bridgend, so you can't land that one on us
3) we have the amount of money we have, end of, we employ players and staff we can afford, we don't need £700k of RFL employees to keep us going (god we could do with it!!)
make up your mind, you " don't need it but could do with it"?
4) we have to stay within RFL guidelines, crusaders have their own, and have not been punished for their "illegal aliens"
fine for one player only
5) if only we could be bankrolled by the RFL or anyone!!!!
in 3) you suggested you didn't need or want any help from the RFL
6) the debts re HMRC are regarding image rights, this will affect all clubs, to a greater or lesser extent. We were picked first as one of the weeker clubs, they wouldn't of tried it with Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc.
maybe
The only reason crusaders are in SL is because it is the wish of SL, if it was down to a level playing field they would never have made SL, if it was down to fair play and a promotion and relegation system, they wouldn't have lasted, FACT!!!!
or your "educated guess"
Rant over.'"

thank goodness for that
Merry Christmas

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Quote: kinleycat "Brasshat, as a supporter of a flat cap club I weren't having a dig at them!!
I was merely pointing out it's not just flatcappers that don't like you, it's supporters of your "current" landlords.
Apologies, as I keep pointing out to your clubs supporters, but your club makes a mockery of this league, a dig? You bet!!!
You my friend are clueless, but then again on this almost desolate forum?? What else!!!
No doubt empty forum such as this indicate success to the RFL!!!!
Like empty grounds, no grounds, no money, bankrupcey, playing illegal players, playing more foreign players than your oppononents, being bankrolled, not being held account to your debts...........
Make up your mind, either you are having a dig or not.

You are scraping the barrel if you are trying to make something out of a few soccer fans, who are not happy with their team's performance and take it out on their owners. The only embarrassing thing is your obsession. Get a grip man.

Oh, seasons greetings and goodwill to all man kind etc. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: boost "thank goodness for that
Merry Christmas'"

Pi$$ poor! Read the threads through then have another go!
....and a happy new year! Keep off the meths!!

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Quote: kinleycat "Pi$$ poor! Read the threads through then have another go!
....and a happy new year! Keep off the meths!!'"

After you eusa_wall.gif

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kinleycat wrote:
1) only have an empty ground when crusaders, quins and catalans come! Our average gate is around 7k (which should be better!!) in a ground that holds 10k, 70% occupancy, +30% more than SL franchise rules.
even your team didn't manage to turn up in time for the kick off at Wrexham, our team had fallen asleep hours before your team showed up.

Just my twopennorth .. but ..

That was the same day that Rhinos played Warrington and there was an England wendyball game on pre-kick-off'
I was stuck for around three hours on the M62 because some loon was threatening to jump off a bridge . There were lots of Rhinos and Wakey fans stuck in that jam . We were stuck so long that we wouldn't have made Wire until around half-time . We turned round and went back to HQ and watched the game in the supporters club . I believe that is why the Wildcats were late for the game .

HTH

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Quote: BaldRick "kinleycat wrote
Most of the Wakefields fans made it to the game on time, it was the team coach behind them that got stuck on the motorway.
kinleycat is refering to the amount of crusaders fans at Wakefields home game with the Crusaders. Apart from the win, the highlight of the game was some loud female wakey fan continually, calling our team the " australian crusaders " if we had been at the KC or Headingly fair dinkum but Wakeys back line that day was like the united nations. icon_smile.gif Young Murphy had a good game, is he still a wakefield player?

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Quote: boost "Most of the Wakefields fans made it to the game on time, it was the team coach behind them that got stuck on the motorway.
kinleycat is refering to the amount of crusaders fans at Wakefields home game with the Crusaders. Apart from the win, the highlight of the game was some loud female wakey fan continually, calling our team the " australian crusaders " if we had been at the KC or Headingly fair dinkum but Wakeys back line that day was like the united nations. 8.27392578125:10
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