So you see this similar to some resturant in the smoke employing a dodgy waiter ?

You seriously think that the club and the RFL have not been involved in what went into the Visa applications especially given the problems that were apparent back in January

what?????
so the rfl had some sort of truck with them in the back under some packing cases??
and their top forger got the documents sorted?

Quote nash crusader="nash crusader":D Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'" OMG how bad is that statement? In my mind it's like rubbing salt in the wounds by saying 'Yeah they were good whilst they were here but now they've been found out, we'll just shove some of the kids in who haven't been able to get a game for love nor money and we'll crack like nothing's happened'!! Amazing!!

Quote nash crusader="nash crusader":D Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'" OMG how bad is that statement? In my mind it's like rubbing salt in the wounds by saying 'Yeah they were good whilst they were here but now they've been found out, we'll just shove some of the kids in who haven't been able to get a game for love nor money and we'll crack like nothing's happened'!! Amazing!!

I can't help but feel sorry for the Crusaders' fans in all this. Think of the season ticket holders who've paid good money and are now facing the prospect of watching their decimated side get really badly beaten for the rest of the season. I honestly believe we could see the first Super League 100 point beating being dished out, which is not good for promoting the game in Wales.

What the effing HELL have our "management" done now?

It's been a hell of a year trying to stay behind our team and now the heart is being ripped out of it because of management balls ups.

I had already decided I supported the TEAM not the CLUB as a result of the breaking of promises regarding playing in Bridgend and now half of our first team players and MOST of our longest served players are being kicked out of the country.

This is an effing JOKE!

It's hard enough getting the anti-expansion flat-cappers to take us seriously as it is!

They must be expressing their glee through the medium of one handed typing (if you know what I mean) as we speak!

I'm not sure I can be bothered with this any more.

stick in there pal, so long as starbug and mr bond dont get you, youll survive, and your fans are always welcome in wakefield

Just seems to be one thing after the next...

Keep the faith!

As fan of Keighley Cougars I can safely say we've been through more than our fair share of disasters in the last 15 years. We won the old 2nd Division (and the premiership final) but were refused a place in Super League to allow London Broncos in.

On the back of that we lost our major sponsor, some international players and in 2001, went briefly out of existance.

All I can say is that it will get better and all true Rugby League fans will have sympathy for your team's plight.

Your management may have nothing to do with it. The Borders Agency are still looking at that. This may all be down to your (former) players just passing along wrong information when filling in their visa forms. Wait and see whether the club is found responsible for anything before giving up. Next season will be better. All the hiccups will have stopped and things will be placed on a more secure, organised, professional footing, with new recruits chosen in a more relaxed way than this time last year when the new visa changes made life chaos.

But let's see what is likely to happen next.

You don't need to be Mystic Meg (or someone who can actually see into the future) to see what's coming.

The RFL will be forced to dock us our few meagre points. Though there is no relegation, they will have to kick us out of SL next year or be damned for gross hypocrisy.

We will be dropped down to the lower leagues. It is unlikely our academy and reserves team will survive the drop, given the nervousness of our benefactor.

Brewery Field limited have been shafted by the Crusaders moving games away from there and will be in no mood to welcome them back when the Newport deal falls through (because Dave Parade will not want to have a lower leagues team playing there) so we will be a team without a ground.

Rest In Peace Crusaders. For a while there it was fun.

Grendel, for the RFL to do anything, the club have to be guilty of something. As yet, they are guilty of nothing.

It's a shame you are moving from Bridgend. That is unnecessary and stupid RFL pressure that was not placed upon other newly formed teams. Sadly, that's what the amateurish incompetent RFL is like, and it doesn't learn its lessons. You should have remained at Bridgend and built on what you have done so far. Alas. If only the RFL had people with some sense in their heads.

How ever bad it looks right now, it probably isn't. Lots of us Up North and in those foreign places (

) are keeping everything crossed that the Borders Agency finds nothing with its grubby little mits and the club can progress from here. (Well, from next season anyway!)