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| According to the Crusaders website Season tickets are on sale.
For 10 matches at Newport & 3 on the road.
Surely if they were going to move to Wrexham then they would stop selling these.
I think a lot of that Guardian piece is rumour.
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| Quote: dids858 "According to the Crusaders website Season tickets are on sale.
For 10 matches at Newport & 3 on the road.
Surely if they were going to move to Wrexham then they would stop selling these.
I think a lot of that Guardian piece is rumour.'"
Excellent news
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| Not like you guys to be negative about us!! My parents just bought two seasons tickets and they were informed by the club that they will be playing 10 home games at Newport one in Wrexham and two other games on the road probably in west wales. Swansea and neath or Llanelli are they most likely venues. We will not be playing every home game at Wrexham.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "Nonsense. Utter nonsense. The RFL has consistently supported and encouraged the growth of Celtic Crusaders. '"
So? Who do you think supported the original Gateshead and the original Sheffield? Why, the RFL of course! But then they changed their agenda and decided that Hull was going downhill rapidly and so merged the Gateshead team with the Hull team to save Hull, and ditto for Sheffield with Huddersfield (I think it was). Gateshead were pulling in a few thousand in those early days but all those fans were just dumped by the RFL. The same is happening in South Wales. The RFL has changed its agenda - new stadia, new stadia, new stadia - and the fans in South Wales are being dumped. If the Crusaders move north I am fairly sure they will die. If they stay where they are, as they should do IMO, then they have a good chance of survival because a lot of groundwork has been done and once they start having some success on the field, the fanbase will grow. But all this uncertainty will do nothing for the chances of RL in South Wales. In fact, it just makes the RFL look like the bunch of clueless amateurs they are. I don't think for one minute the club would have considered moving out of Bridgend until they absolutely had to (to make way for a new stadium there) without the pressure from the RFL and their bloody new stadia agenda. Idiots.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So? Who do you think supported the original Gateshead and the original Sheffield? Why, the RFL of course! But then they changed their agenda and decided that Hull was going downhill rapidly and so merged the Gateshead team with the Hull team to save Hull, and ditto for Sheffield with Huddersfield (I think it was). Gateshead were pulling in a few thousand in those early days but all those fans were just dumped by the RFL. The same is happening in South Wales. The RFL has changed its agenda - new stadia, new stadia, new stadia - and the fans in South Wales are being dumped. If the Crusaders move north I am fairly sure they will die. If they stay where they are, as they should do IMO, then they have a good chance of survival because a lot of groundwork has been done and once they start having some success on the field, the fanbase will grow. But all this uncertainty will do nothing for the chances of RL in South Wales. In fact, it just makes the RFL look like the bunch of clueless amateurs they are. I don't think for one minute the club would have considered moving out of Bridgend until they absolutely had to (to make way for a new stadium there) without the pressure from the RFL and their bloody new stadia agenda. Idiots.'"
The drive (nay requirement) for new stadia has been on the cards long before Crusaders were ever concieved. Keithley were famously denied entry into super league because of theirs. Crusaders as part of their license were going to get one sorted. Everyone else in the sport whose stadiums are not up to scratch are going through the exact same thing.
As I say, the rfl have bent over backwards for the crusaders. To blame them for anything is absolutely ridiculous.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "The drive (nay requirement) for new stadia has been on the cards long before Crusaders were ever concieved. Keithley were famously denied entry into super league because of theirs. Crusaders as part of their license were going to get one sorted. Everyone else in the sport whose stadiums are not up to scratch are going through the exact same thing.'"
Yes, they are, and I think that is just as bad because we are in the middle of a recession and the last thing struggling RL clubs can afford is bloody new stadiums. The RFL should have relieved the pressure until the financial situation is better and so the Crusaders would not have felt the need to move before they were really ready to. But that would be to grant the people at Red Hall with some nouse, which they just don't have.
Quote: Chris Dalton "As I say, the rfl have bent over backwards for the crusaders. To blame them for anything is absolutely ridiculous.'"
You clearly didn't read my last post so your comment is worthless.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Yes, they are, and I think that is just as bad because we are in the middle of a recession and the last thing struggling RL clubs can afford is bloody new stadiums. The RFL should have relieved the pressure until the financial situation is better and so the Crusaders would not have felt the need to move before they were really ready to. But that would be to grant the people at Red Hall with some nouse, which they just don't have.
You clearly didn't read my last post so your comment is worthless.'"
Are you on drugs ? it is not the RFL that are forcing anybody to move anywhere , the move to Newport is a Crusaders decision , probably to try to build a bigger fan base in a bigger town
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "And he was given quite a bit of RFL cash into the bargain. Let's not forget that.'"
Who knows what the rfl has or hasnt done, but are you suggesting that the rfl put cash in samuels pocket or paid running costs for the club? big difference i would suggest.
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "Yes, you have. You still do.
oh ffs boo sucks to you too www.islandfarm.tv/
Are you reffering to this ? , if so this is not on the site of Brewery field therefore it does not give the Crusaders any problem staying at Brewery field until it is built , the RFL accepted Brewery field last year and until the Crusaders outgrow Brewery field there is no reason they cannot continue there
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Quote: SaintsFan "You really do like being obtuse, don't you? The move to Newport was to facilitate a new stadium being built in Bridgend and it was part of the licence application. That means Crusaders had to be either in a new stadium by the three year deadline (max) or in another stadium until a new stadium was built. However, had the RFL eased off on its ridiculous demand for new stadia, especially at a time of quite awful recession, then the Crusaders could have stayed at Bridgend until such time as a new stadium was actually imminent, just as Saints are staying at Knowsley Road until their new stadium is imminent (although slightly different since Saints' stadium is being built at an entirely different location from Knowsley Road, hence logistically things are easier). However, the RFL have not backed off and the Crusaders' hand has been forced.'"
www.islandfarm.tv/
Are you reffering to this ? , if so this is not on the site of Brewery field therefore it does not give the Crusaders any problem staying at Brewery field until it is built , the RFL accepted Brewery field last year and until the Crusaders outgrow Brewery field there is no reason they cannot continue there
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You really do like being obtuse, don't you? The move to Newport was to facilitate a new stadium being built in Bridgend and it was part of the licence application. That means Crusaders had to be either in a new stadium by the three year deadline (max) or in another stadium until a new stadium was built. However, had the RFL eased off on its ridiculous demand for new stadia, especially at a time of quite awful recession, then the Crusaders could have stayed at Bridgend until such time as a new stadium was actually imminent, just as Saints are staying at Knowsley Road until their new stadium is imminent (although slightly different since Saints' stadium is being built at an entirely different location from Knowsley Road, hence logistically things are easier). However, the RFL have not backed off and the Crusaders' hand has been forced.'"
If you read the RFL's notes on Crusader's licence, it said that it expected them to upgrade Brewery Field not to move.
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| Quote: Hedgehog King "If you read the RFL's notes on Crusader's licence, it said that it expected them to upgrade Brewery Field not to move.'"
Point being though that if they were drawing in 3/4,000 home fans at brewery field by 2012 with another 1,500/2,000 away fans then they would still be worthy of another licence , but Brewery field would still be big enough to accomodate them , if that was to happen the RFL would have to be daft to refuse them
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