So , there was a statement that , " A sell out is likely " , it was in all intensome purposes a ' sell out '

End of thread

Or we see a natural progression of the thread

I wasn't aware that one had to be 'asked' for ones opinion whilst partaking in an online open discussion on a Rugby League forum.

My mistake.

How on earth is somebody who is never going to watch another game played by Crusaders live staying on topic?

In fact how is it staying on topic of the whole forum. If anything it is for fans of the club and people who are interested. The person who is commenting is neither in my eyes.

As Starbug says, original threads are a starting point for an expanded discussion.

I was answering Wrexham Goon's question, which was a development of a development form the original thread.

I accept you don't like what I say these days about your club Cru, but others seem happy to engage, even if it's to oppose.

What would you prefer?

POST 1: Ooh the Crusaders are great!

POST 2: Yes they are aren't they?

POST 3: I agree!!! lol

POST 4: Me too! rofl

AJHwarrior: And they're sexy. lol rofl lmao

POST 6: They're the best!

I mean I know it must be irritating that the past won't just disappear and that people are still ticked off, but them's the facts. Just argue back! It's more fun.

And I hate to make it easy for you. But if you ignore me I'll probably just go away.

For a start I'd like people here who are actually interested in the club.

I'm going to remain positive as the future looks to be that. I'm fed up of bickering arguments that achieve nothing. We had enough of that with the rumours and counter rumours when Crusaders played down here. As it is to date there has been none of that rubbish at Wrexham and long may it continue.

I don't think I need to ignore you.

You're on my clubs forum producing posts which are now getting negative responses from neutrals as well.

If that doesn't tell you something nothing will. There will always be people like Pete_Zatoppin here to back you up though. None of the Hull fans can stand him on their site.

He's right you know.

My mother posts on there and she abandoned me outside Paragon station when I was 4

Who can blame her?

Oh fer flip's sake Cru,

Is the Scorps not MY club too then? What "neutrals"? It's mainly (if not entirely) the WC contingent.

And I don't need "back up". Never have. It's a matter of pride for me. Anything a person can't do without back-up they've no right doing.

I'll be honest Cru, I've never said this before, but given some of the whiny shiit I've heard from SOME of those Celtic Cru originals who now support the Wrexham Cru, there are some right pussies around. Debate is one of the great pleasures of life. Yet any dissenting views are met with "you shouldn't say things like this" "you should be banned" "Nobody is allowed on here to say nasty things about the Crusaders, because Mark Rowley and Phil Davies said so!" "Move on, nothing to see here".

And I'm afraid to say, that when people try to stifle debate, all I want to do is wind them up.

It's funny though, that I did all I could when the Scorps was formed to publicise Terraceculture's site as the forum of choice, when you lot were still on CTID. Then all of a sudden you move over and three or four comments get all blown out of proportion. There were more postings from the WC supporters whinging about what I and a few others said, than there were posts to earn your ire.

Now you can get all shouty and try and drown me out and do me down or (if you're AJH) try and defame me if you like. Willy waving contests are funny.

But I'm off now. Time for bed.

You're off full stop. Ignore for you and Pete_Zatopping I feel.

Now that's better already.

You can ignore the truth all you want , the RFL did it with the Celtic Crusaders , we kept on telling people and were accused of being bitter and jealous

But we were actually right , it was a house of cards , we didnt say that because we were bitter and jealous [ even though many probably were ] , we said it because it was plain to see by anybody willing to open their eyes

I hope genuinely that the club in Wrexham survive and prosper , but what will become apparent to you shortly is that many of the Celtic Crusaders heartland clubs ' SL supporters ' will be desperate for you to fail , they will want this because it will have a direct impact on their own clubs as it did on the clubs in the lower leagues last time

As for Grendel , I understand his pain , I dont agree with his sentiments , but I understand them , I think perhaps now he understands where we were all coming from 18 months ago

All the best