Because it is. I am sure I read somewhere that there was a website on the subject of a new state of the art stadium near Bridgend. A couple of clubs were mentioned as being the ones to play out of it. Unfortunately the Crusaders were not one of them. So why move away from the south where this stadium is supposedly going to be built. The move north could be due Mr Samuels pulling out, having taken a seasons Sky money and half a million quid from selling the lease on Brewery field, along with spending very little on players (illegals are never paid very much). The guy is a shrewd businessman who seems to have taken the RFL for a ride.

im sorry but are you being satirical? illegals are never paid very much? yeah mate they were on minimum wage, very insightful.

see tht thing whooshing past your head. that was a point you were missing.

i know some people are discussing this matter with a clear head and concern for a number of issues. jesus wept. but there is a hard core of s having orgasms. my comments re directed at them not everyody eing critical. jesus do i realy have to explain that blindingly obvious point.
as for not seeing problems what are you on about? i see them very clearly thanks.
league is in a difficult position, maybe even an impossible position. if you cant see that then you are blind.

stop whining. no one is stopping you saying anything. the victim card really doesnt suit you starbug.

yeah whatever suits your agenda best eh starbug.

Open your eyes JBUK

No, you didn't. You were adamant that anyone who predicted poor crowds, LS being unreliable with his cash or that Crusaders were likely to relocate and rename themselves was a flatcapper.

Yet they all happened.



Difficult - yes
Impossible - no

League survived the loss of Paris St Germain and even managed to keep growing despite this. No disrespect to the Bridgend / Newport area but Paris you are not.

If the worst comes to the worst and rugby league ceases to be a pro sport in Wales, the game will move on without Wales just as it moved on without Paris.

whatever but they were hardly the source of some crafty income for samuels as was being suggested. the guy has ploughed lots of money into the sport whatever anyone thinks of him.

my eyes are open thanks.

yeah yeah just make it up as you go along. there is a difference between making reasonable predictons, whether optimistic or pessimistic and the blind hatred we have had to endure over the last few years. i have never had any problems with people from the heartlands showing concern over the nature and inherent risk of expansion.

i have always argued that the risk was worth the benefits. to argue otherwise s obviously not being a flatcapper. i restrict that term to people who believe that there is some bizzarre inherent inability for people in other areas to enjoy the sport and become seriously invested in it. these are two distinct arguments.

the world has moved on massively from the time of psg. union has got into top gear and anyone who believes we can sit still and that will not have a serious maybe even fatal impact on out sport is the really deluded one.

stayng in the m62 corridor is death

Yes, you have. You still do.



You thought it was worth the risk and so presumably you are enjoying the current mess.

Personally I don't.

I wanted expansion into Wales and it has seemingly been thrown away by reckless idiots.



Cliched rubbish, the game is enjoying a boom in non-traditional areas such as Essex (piece in the Independent last week no less).

It is also played in France, New Zealand, Australia, Papua New Guinea and the Pacific Islands and to some extent Spain, the USA, Serbia, the Cazech Republic et alia.

It would be nice for Wales to be on that list but it's massively overstating things to say that Bridgend or even Newport were the difference between survival and oblivion.

And he was given quite a bit of RFL cash into the bargain. Let's not forget that.

The main pity is that when the game had support in S Wales, primarily from the councils of Cardiff and Swansea in the 90's the RFL backed out leaving much bad feeling. Regarding the present, incidentally very easy to predict when you know the answers, was not to strengthen the side when they went into Super League. It is impossible to attract new supporters when the team is always losing, this is very much reflected in the crowd figures for the Crusaders.
It amuses me that people love having a go at the club about players on incorrect visas, which is exactly what other non super league clubs were doing. Unfortunately only Crusaders were the only club left with players prior to the 2009 season who had played on these contracts. Apparently one other club still had oneleft but not enough high profile to matter for the powers that be.