I still can't see us playing primarily out of North Wales as the only chance we have is down here. If we do we'll be cutting our own throats. I hope the RFL can see this even if we want to do it.

If we stay down here and have a couple of years of stability off the field and what I think will be progression on the field with the coaching set up then the sky's the limit. All we want is a boring season off the field where we stay out of the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Fingers crossed as I think if we can ride out these first few difficult years there is a big future for rugby league down here.

it was the Rugby League who made the rules, FRAMING THE FUTURE , new grounds was one of the citeria ,if it was Widnes with an old stadium instead of saints "we would have been kicked out".
We had to make cutbacks to pay for our stadium and the team suffered ,we even played games at canal st, what is happening at saints, happened at Widnes many years ago. NOW ALL THE TEAMS MUST MEET THE CRITERIA or move for a team that does.

If crusaders had won a grand final and gone up i for one would respect their position in super league, and finally your home games did you know? it takes two minutes less to get to Widnes along the M5 (3HRS 36MINS), than it does to wrexham(3HRS 38MINS) REF GOOGLE big mistake moving
the club needs to stay loyal and local to its fans!

Totally agree. This is the reason I believe the RFL will not allow any move if it is any way near permanent.

Widnes will be in next time I'm sure of it. We've got off the mark now, not the best season by any stretch of the imagination, but we're off the mark with regards to Super League and if we stay in South Wales I think we can make a success of it. I just hope we don't move to Wrexham in any great capacity as it will be the beginning of the end. The fan base, although small this will grow with time, is in South Wales as is the majority of the young rugby playing talent.

I am pleased someone has chequed how long it takes to get to Wrexham and the fact other RL clubs can be reached faster from S Wales. I have said this many times but there appears to be a body of people who appear to think it is nothing travelling to the north.
When the Wales RU reorganised into areas, it was proposed that Llanelli would also have N Wales and play matches there. That has gone in that Llanelli have only played one game in N Wales, and with their current financial position I cannot at the present time see another game being played there in the near future.
Money is a major factor, and sadly at present their appears to be more in N Wales, and certainly current northern RL players are more willing to play for a side not too far from the heartlands of the game.
In the south another year or two we shall have local players who will be able to compete at the games top level, and with the massive programme going on at junior level it would be a disaster to leave S Wales completely.

The Framing the future document existed long before Celtic crusaders had ever been thought of , it is a guideline , not a set criteria , all it asks is that stadia are ' fit for purpose ' , If Brewery field was not up to relevant standard then the RFL should not have considered them for SL , nothing has changed in that repsect in the last 18 months

thats why you are talking Bollox

Because it is. I am sure I read somewhere that there was a website on the subject of a new state of the art stadium near Bridgend. A couple of clubs were mentioned as being the ones to play out of it. Unfortunately the Crusaders were not one of them. So why move away from the south where this stadium is supposedly going to be built. The move north could be due Mr Samuels pulling out, having taken a seasons Sky money and half a million quid from selling the lease on Brewery field, along with spending very little on players (illegals are never paid very much). The guy is a shrewd businessman who seems to have taken the RFL for a ride.

im sorry but are you being satirical? illegals are never paid very much? yeah mate they were on minimum wage, very insightful.

see tht thing whooshing past your head. that was a point you were missing.

i know some people are discussing this matter with a clear head and concern for a number of issues. jesus wept. but there is a hard core of s having orgasms. my comments re directed at them not everyody eing critical. jesus do i realy have to explain that blindingly obvious point.
as for not seeing problems what are you on about? i see them very clearly thanks.
league is in a difficult position, maybe even an impossible position. if you cant see that then you are blind.

stop whining. no one is stopping you saying anything. the victim card really doesnt suit you starbug.

yeah whatever suits your agenda best eh starbug.

Open your eyes JBUK

No, you didn't. You were adamant that anyone who predicted poor crowds, LS being unreliable with his cash or that Crusaders were likely to relocate and rename themselves was a flatcapper.

Yet they all happened.



Difficult - yes
Impossible - no

League survived the loss of Paris St Germain and even managed to keep growing despite this. No disrespect to the Bridgend / Newport area but Paris you are not.

If the worst comes to the worst and rugby league ceases to be a pro sport in Wales, the game will move on without Wales just as it moved on without Paris.