It would seem their present situation is fine according to Mr Samuels and the RFL

So nothing to worry about

He also said same thing about Celtic Warriors! Oh and amzingly also talked about moving them out of Bridgend just weeks before they went belly up!

Sounds promising...

Have you bunch of pretenders gone out of business yet?

Super League my .

Encouraged, where did you get a smiley that so remebled your face?

Come on there having a great day today! It's gone 2pm and nothing's gone wrong yet!

No Grendel that's what he's talking out of!!

I care about celtic, and quite alot of other fans do, i have heard people from virtually every club say that they want celtic to do well, just because you want crusaders to fail dont think that the opinion is universal. In there first sl season they are on the same level for crowds as salford, and they are wipping boys, with a more succesful team and a few years to put down roots i can see them being a succes like catalans.

...but there's the rub.... Catalans STARTED with sixty years of roots. If you don't know, Catalans Dragons are an amalgum of St Esteve and Treize Catalans, the two most successful teams from the French domestic RL, which goes back to the 1930s.

My concern, from the outset, was that Crusaders were trying to build top-down, not growing a base for an application to SL in 3-12 years' time. I want Crusaders to work. I've always raised the fear that it was being rushed, and that a a failure this time would kill off Welsh development for decades to come.

Let's hope it really is all a bed of roses (and leeks and daffodyls)

yes thanks i am aware of the history of catalans. I dont think it was ever going to be a bed of roses, it was always going to be a hard first year for celtic, the next few years will be the acid test, but i think that they have alot of potential and will soon (next few years) be outstripping quins for crowds by a good distance and i think they could overtake a few heartland clubs on the field as well. Time will tell.

I don't! and you're right, time will tell! Tho I'm not yet sure how much time..................

That i think is wishful thinking on your part, though why an rl fan would wish for an rl to die mystifies me.

errrr........ where have I said that??????