Millennium Magic is back?

Quote: Grendel "Helmethunter,

REALLY? Just repetition of your earlier incorrect drivel? ONCE AGAIN in sipmler terms if I can think down to your level.

1. Lots of men in Bridgend wanted to buy the club but didn't want to clean up Samuel's mess. They did not like Mike Turner..... Still with me?
2. Samuel didn't want to clean up his own mess. He asked Mike Turner to find a man who would clean up his mess and give him some money. Then he ran away so the nasty men for the RFL couldn't say mean things to him..... Got that?
3. Mike Turner wanted to keep his job so he told the nice Bridgnd men to Feck off.... Understand still?
4. Mike Turner spoke to a man up in north wales who had lots of money, nice toys and wanted to have a new toy. The man said mike turner could keep his job.
5. Mike Turner sold the club to the man from north wales.
6. Mike Turner kept his job. Leighton Samuel got somebody else to clean up his mess and get paid for it and lots of people down in South Wales were sad.
7. Leighton Samuel COULD have sold the club to the nice men form Bridgend and all the South Wales people would have been happy. But Leighton is a mean, nasty man and Mike is a liar who wanted to keep his job.
8. Nasty Leighton would not have closed the club down because he loves having money even more than being mean.

I hope that's dumbed down enough for you HH because I can't think any thicker than that, though I do have a cactus who's on your intellectual level.'"

You have still not answered the question of why the club was up for sale, and the answer to that is because Samuel literally could not afford to run it anymore and it was going to go bust. Not because he is a 'nasty man' and wanted to upset everyone. Because the club was about to go bust. Samuel wouldn't have 'closed it down', it would have gone into liquidation and ceased to exist. If a Bridgend-based consortium had bought the club, then it would still have had insurmountable debts, gone into liquidation and ceased to exist. How do you think the club would have continued to exist with massive debts? And don't say Samuel would have paid them, because he physically couldn't, hence the need to sell in the first place. That's without taking into consideration whether or not the Bridgend-based buyers actually had the necessary resources - I could quite easily say that I wanted to buy the club and keep it in the South, that doesn't mean I would have been a viable option. I think we all agree that Mike Turner is an idiot and a liar, but that does not mean there was an option to keep the club in the South, because if there was then it would have remained there.

Quote: Grendel "Oh helmet, and I LOVE your naiive assumption that Leighton Samuel brought Noble to the Crusaders.
It is well known that Brian Noble is on an RFL contract that GUARANTEES his wages, because the competency of Samuel and Turner are well known.
Noble is not an idiot. He would not go to such a shambles of a club unless he could be sure of being paid.

Recent comical events surrounding players contracts at your club are well known and even Spongy wouldn't have the nerve / stupidity to challenge that statement.'"

It's completely immaterial, but Samuel brought Noble, Harris and Sharp to South Wales, outlined his plans for the club, even helped find them houses etc before they signed their contracts. You can't deny that happened, because it did, look at the interviews and reports from when they were appointed if you don't believe me.

I'm not sure why you have given me ownership of Crusaders, I don't really have anything to do with then, but the current problems there are everything to do with Mike Turner and the new owners and nothing to do with this discussion.

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