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Quote: SaintsFan "What an insensitive and utterly obnoxious post.

I'm thoroughly sorry that this has happened to the Cru, whose loyal band of supporters were great to mix with, creating a fabulous atmosphere at Wrexham. Incompetent management is what has cost the club and how people from Wakefield can even begin to gloat, when they were in just the same position, beggars belief.'"

Not insensitive at all, if you got that from my post, you have misinterpreted it.
I think the crusaders board have brought sone dignity to the process, something the RFL never could.
Hopefully under their own steam, they will go onto develop their club, it's just a shame that it took the board to do the job the RFL should have.

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The sentiment of trying to build a Rugby League team in Wales is a good one. But the RFL pushed you guys into Super League far too quickly. You would have benefited from 3 years in the Championship in 2008 and might have been in a better position financially and with a better fan base, and may have been successful this time around, had they done this. Now Rugby League is left with egg on their face and a lot of disgruntled fans and players. Good luck for the future

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The RFL is to blame for this one. Fast tracking doesn't work.

I wonder who would have gone if Celtic HADN'T withdrawn from the bidding process though?

Good luck in the future to the club & its fans.

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Quote: kinleycat "Not insensitive at all, if you got that from my post, you have misinterpreted it.
I think the crusaders board have brought sone dignity to the process, something the RFL never could.
Hopefully under their own steam, they will go onto develop their club, it's just a shame that it took the board to do the job the RFL should have.'"

The decision was purely financal, the Crusaders board don't do dignity!

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Quote: kinleycat "Not insensitive at all, if you got that from my post, you have misinterpreted it.
I think the crusaders board have brought sone dignity to the process, something the RFL never could.
Hopefully under their own steam, they will go onto develop their club, it's just a shame that it took the board to do the job the RFL should have.'"

This would be the same board who, just a few short months ago, made an application complete with a business plan that was allegedly good enough for another three years in SL? That board? The same who only withdrew their application at the last minute after talks with the RFL?

Methinks somebody called their bluff.

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Quote: casfanforlife "The sentiment of trying to build a Rugby League team in Wales is a good one. But the RFL pushed you guys into Super League far too quickly.'"

It wasn't the speed of entering SL that was the problem. It was the inability to see what a cowboy the first owner was, and seemingly the second set are little better.

Incompetent management at the top level did for Crusaders, not their entry into SL.

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Quote: Kosh "It wasn't the speed of entering SL that was the problem. It was the inability to see what a cowboy the first owner was, and seemingly the second set are little better.

Incompetent management at the top level did for Crusaders, not their entry into SL.'"
Yeah, had the administration been competent in the first place there was no reason it couldn't have been a success. Equally, had the Wrexham administrators been competent then there was no reason that it couldn't have been a success in the North. Playing for three more years in the Championship wouldn't have changed anything, it's nothing to do with speed of entry and everything to do with diabolical administration, the club have been extremely unlucky in that the owners in both the North and the South have been crooks.
Quote: Kosh "Not insensitive at all, if you got that from my post, you have misinterpreted it.
I think the crusaders board have brought sone dignity to the process, something the RFL never could.
Hopefully under their own steam, they will go onto develop their club, it's just a shame that it took the board to do the job the RFL should have.'"
You are a buffoon.

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Keith Senior should honour his contract. If Robbie (hunter) Paul can play in the championship, he bl00dy well can !!!

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Quote: kinleycat "Not insensitive at all, if you got that from my post, you have misinterpreted it.
I think the crusaders board have brought sone dignity to the process, something the RFL never could.
Hopefully under their own steam, they will go onto develop their club, it's just a shame that it took the board to do the job the RFL should have.'"

Stop being so patronising.

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Quote: Bradleigh "Keith Senior should honour his contract. If Robbie (hunter) Paul can play in the championship, he bl00dy well can !!!'"

Keith Senior made a comment in the press that he thought it demeaning to play in the Championship! Ha. I hope no-one employs him. Obnoxious bloke.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Keith Senior made a comment in the press that he thought it demeaning to play in the Championship! Ha. I hope no-one employs him. Obnoxious bloke.'"


I see, the silly old man.

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Is everyone sure that Crusaders are even going to be around to play in the Co-Op Championship next year. The RFL wording of earlier seemed to suggest it wasnt exactly a given, and I'm sure that administration has been mentioned again.

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Gutted for both fans & players as I would have been if Wakey had got the chop.

I know how I felt when Widnes were excluded last time, but I didn't blame another club, the decision was made by the jokers at the RFL.

There are a lot on here blaming the board both old & new which has most likely contributed to Cru's downfall but they are not soley to blame.

The RFL fast tracked them yes, to soon? Probably but the warning about their ground etc meant they had to move & lose the fan base they had.

We all know if you don't get them through the turnstiles you will never have the money needed to compete.

It's all ifs & buts but imo they may have been better staying in south Wales with the fanbase they had & building on that maybe moving to a football or rugby union ground down there.

If they hadn't made the grade for a sl licence then at least they would be able to field a team in the lower leagues, which at present looks uncertain to say the least.

I know this is all in hindsight & to be honest I don't know all the facts. But from what I think I know the RFL have to take the majority of the blame for this situation as they didn't stand up to Sky & tell them it was to soon for Cru to enter sl.

I wait to be corrected!

I wish Cru & its fans the best of luck & perhaps in 3 to 6 years you can reapply, not sure you will be playing in Wrexham though, word is the ground will be sold to the Uni.

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first Wrecsam fc are in trouble now the crusaders. someone must be bad in managing a business
the rfl must take a long hard look at expansion into areas that the game is lacking

the crowds were poor but a good noisy crowd feel sorry for all crusader supporters

keep the faith for the future

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Totally duff call , expantionist policy right out the window seeing as Tolouse is going back into the French league . I am not happy about Crusaders coming back into the Championship either, we lose Widnes (and good luck to them) but they bring a good crowd to us. Then we get landed with the Welsh team again that brings noone but yet it costs us a fortune to go down there.'"


what to Wrexham its only 30 miles from Widnes.

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