The problem is Crucru old chap, that as much as you'd like it to be the case, it doesn't seem to be the Widnes fans that have done much of the crowing on here..
Whether you like it or not there have been plenty of questions asked about the Crusaders from fans of different clubs on different forums. Sorry that doesn't fit in with your sad little complex..

You simply have a chip on your shoulder!!

Not even sure 'the argument' is finished with either for that matter..

Forgetting about the licensing for a minute, i don't really see what everyone is moaning about. The SL was expanding by 2 teams and Salford and Celtic were the top 2 in the division below. The only gripe widnes fans can have is that celtic should be relegated if they finish bottom. However, widnes would still need to win their grand final. Lets see if they moan about getting a franchise if they get one next time without winning the GF.

I don't think it particularly needs arguing again on here but it wasn't simply a choice of the two top teams it was supposed to be based on criteria including ground, finances, support and youth development amongst others.. if it was based on performances and we had a chance of gaining access to SL this year and the next and the next after that as the good old promotion and relegation worked.. you wouldn't find a moaner anywhere..

I think this whole thread should be removed..

The site administrator Adam9641 was having a pop at me yesterday for only posting negative things when I was disagreeing with Crucrucru. I wonder what he thinks of this thread.

Crusaders have issued statements saying they are not going bust.

The rfl have said virtually the same and they are helping Crusaders through the difficult first season.

What business do Widnes fans have on here other than that?

None as far as I can see.

They didn't stop whinging when I was on their site laughing at their plight but they come on here funnily enough roughly around the time of rumours of us going into admin and they get all self defensive. Awww bless em.

Two things there el pricko...
1) you've missed the point... as I said above it is not simply Widnes fans that have come on here or discussed your plight on other boards and yet you continue to point the finger solely at us... did you get tickled too hard and somewhere inappropriately once by someone claiming to be a Widnes fan or is your blinkered view down to something else..

2) Hmmmm why is it again that you don't get the love from Widnes fans..
"They didn't stop whinging when I was on their site laughing at their plight"
Oh that's right... I remember.

Awww, someone feeling nervous are we?

it stinks, you dont see the rfl rushin gin to help doncaster do you!! in the so called difficult times...

I didn't notice them helping Leigh through their "difficult first season" in SDL, did you?

Well, I havent posted on this board before, but gonna have my 2 peneth anyway! For what its worth, I cant honestly see how anybody can say that Celtic were the best contenders to enter SL. I think that it would have been better, for both the club and the game, for it to be left until the next licence applications when the club would be better established. What gets to me is that you dont abide by the same rules as the rest of us ie overseas quota (and, yes, I did say the same thing about Catalans a few years back!). I know that the RFL wanted the presence in Wales, and i have no problem with that at all, I just think that it was a few years too early. And now onto the sublect of players - could one of you please explain to me why you are letting the only player in your squad go who makes chances in a game??? When Duggan is out injured, as he is at the moment, you have no structure or penentration apart from the kick over the top. Please try to make me understand why you have come to this decision as it is baffling me!! www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=14630

Well, I havent posted on this board before, but gonna have my 2 peneth anyway! For what its worth, I cant honestly see how anybody can say that Celtic were the best contenders to enter SL. I think that it would have been better, for both the club and the game, for it to be left until the next licence applications when the club would be better established. What gets to me is that you dont abide by the same rules as the rest of us ie overseas quota (and, yes, I did say the same thing about Catalans a few years back!). I know that the RFL wanted the presence in Wales, and i have no problem with that at all, I just think that it was a few years too early. And now onto the sublect of players - could one of you please explain to me why you are letting the only player in your squad go who makes chances in a game??? When Duggan is out injured, as he is at the moment, you have no structure or penentration apart from the kick over the top. Please try to make me understand why you have come to this decision as it is baffling me!! www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=14630

Bully for them.



Why don't you ask the same question of the fans of Hull KR, Wigan, Leigh, Halifax etc who have aired their opinion on the matter both on here and other boards? The fact is, we're an easy target for your bile no matter how many fans of other club's question your clubs validity.



You truly are a weapons grade moron and your obsession with us Widnes fans borders on obsessive.

They very probably did but there isn't the business interest in Doncaster to support the club financially. Doncaster have been in and out of financial trouble virtually since they began (that was in the 1930s wasn't it?). The RFL is only offering [iadvice[/i, just as it did to Catalans and also would do to any club who needed it. They have a good team of [iadvisers[/i to offer advice. They are not offering cash.

If that is the case , surely they would have been advising Celtic , Doncaster and all the other clubs before now

Why offer advice after , why not offer advice before

Or maybe you are just talking Bollox

Advice

This is like groudhog day, whatever is happening to Crusaders people will have an opinion on.

Three comments

Before insulting me, maybe you should read up on what the RFL is about and what it has at its disposal. Also, reading the link I gave earlier in the thread might also help. The RFL has a team of experienced people specific to the job of advising and enabling clubs on recruitment, publicity, obtaining sponsorship, dealing with the salary cap, etc.

Doncaster is in a rubbish place for rugby league. Read RL history. It has never attracted local business. Gateshead Thunder are doing a better job. That will be at least in part to do with Doncaster being in a rubbish place where RL is concerned. No-one is fecking interested in Doncaster, business-wise, and that is Doncaster's problem. That does not mean there won't be local businesses interested in the Crusaders. You've already probably done better than Doncaster in catching Brains. The key is, to catch more of the same. And the RFL have stepped in to help in that process.

What on earth is so awful about that?

And, as it says in the link I provided, the RFL provided exactly the same kind of support to Catalans Dragons during their first season in SL. Look where they are now. But the Dragons aren't the only club to receive such support and such support isn't only offered to expansion clubs. Read up, do your homework before having a go at me. You might find you have to eat your own words.