So in this case, why did the backer not put in a bid for the club? And if he did, then why did they choose to ignore it and move hundreds of miles away to a completely alien area instead of staying and building on the work that they had done? It would have been much easier to keep the club in South Wales if there was a buyer there. The fact that there wasn't any sort of concrete bid and that the club was about to go bust seems to have evaded you.
That's one of the best comments I have read on this forum. Tongue-in-cheek, surely?

While I disagree with much of the sentiment that Grendel uses in this topic and others, he is right regards the potential buyers for the Celtic Crusaders franchise. There was a bid from a Bridgend based consortium, infact afterwards said consortium is supposed to have put a bid forward to set up a Championship 1 club playing out of the Brewery Field , but of course this went to the Neath based consortium thanks to the RFL. The potential buyers for the Celtic Crusaders franchise in the South were willing to buy the franchise but NOT willing to cover the debts accumilated by Samuel, only Wrexham were willing to do so ,so took the franchise by default practically. The youth development and playing base is all still in South Wales, the vast majority of fans are in North Wales, the problem is having both in the same place.

So it was not a viable option then considering the club was about to go into liquidation.

Where do you get "about to go into liquidation" from, you sagging old lady breast?

Samuel wanted out. The consortium did not want to pick up Samuel's debts and wanted Turner out. Ergo, Samuel wanted someone else to pick up after his latest mess and Turner wanted to keep his job. THIS and ONLY this is the reason the club fecked off to Wrexham.

This is all well known in South Wales. 'm surprised a RL forum moderator who claims to live down south managed to MISS such a signifcant piece of information.

(PS you really ARE easy to manipulate. You'd have locked this thread long ago if I hadn't suggested you would and challeneged you to do so. This may go some way to explaining why you so easily accept the mob explanation over facts.)

You grendal are a out. Nothing else. You can't argue your point at all, so you resorted to moving around every single point that i made. So that makes you, a out. Wouldn't expect anything more for you though mate. It's just funny watching you troll on a forum, for something you " don't care about".

It also prooves that you don't understand how the business world works. You ing idiot. Samuel was not going to sell the crusaders unless someone took on his massive debt that he accumalated. This means, that without a buyer that was going to do this, the club was going to go into liquidation, because he didn't want the club anymore. They could of had a million offers from a south wales consortium, but unless any of them were willing to take on the debt from samuel, then the club was going into liquidation, as they would of had no money, no ground, no players to keep the club going. You tool

I'm surprised that an idiotic south wales fan such as yourself missed all this. You make me laugh. Obviously trying to stir up on a forum.

"Ergo, Samuel wanted someone else to pick up after his latest mess and Turner wanted to keep his job. THIS and ONLY this is the reason the club fecked off to Wrexham."

Where is your proof by the way. I haven't seen anything from it yet. You are just spouting . Maybe you should stop now

Spongy you dozy Gog Ratshagger, calm the pheck down or you'll have an embolism and let's face it you clearly can't spare the brain cells.
You REALLY think Samuel, if he couldn't offload his debt would rather go into liquidation than flog off what he could and mitigate the debts? So he'd take enoromous losses rather than break even / take a small loss? And YOU, laughably as usual, claim I don't understand business?!

Mate swapping coloured pebbles for sheep fleeces is not "business" outside of north wales. So honestly, you simply make yourself look foolish pretending you understand.
Also playing the "I laugh at you" card whilst raging like you clearly are only makes you look even more foolish.

Add to this your atrocious grammar and spelling "could of" "prooves" (sic) and mate, you look like you sneaked into the shallow end of the gene pool when the lifeguard wasn't looking.

And then FINALLY, you try the "you haven't even shown me any proof" card. The last desperate gambit of a complete windowlicker.

I think if you went to a naturalist (that's an epxert on flora and fauna not a nudist - you're so phukkin' thick i thought I should clarify that), you'd probably be downgraded from an animal to a vegetable you're that stupid.

Over to you Spongy

Spongy said

Clearly worked then. I stirred you up

While we're on the subject of poor spelling

Geez I need a better hobby than this. !

Samuel could not afford to pay the debts. He could not afford to pay the players or run the club anymore, hence the need to sell. He fled to Dubai for a week when the RFL found out his financial status, prior to that he had been continuing to try and run the club, even convincing Noble and co to move to South Wales. Do you think he would have done that if he had 'wanted' out? If no one had picked up his debts, then the club could not have continued to exist, because it was GOING BUST. Turner had nothing to do with selling the club, he wasn't the owner. I'm not sure who this is 'well known' amongst other than yourself, since you have entirely made it up.
Apart from the fact that there is (unfortunately) nothing in the AUP against talking garbage and so no reason for the thread to be locked or your posts to be removed, I'm not even a moderator on this forum so couldn't if I wanted to.

Helmethunter,

REALLY? Just repetition of your earlier incorrect drivel? ONCE AGAIN in sipmler terms if I can think down to your level.

1. Lots of men in Bridgend wanted to buy the club but didn't want to clean up Samuel's mess. They did not like Mike Turner..... Still with me?
2. Samuel didn't want to clean up his own mess. He asked Mike Turner to find a man who would clean up his mess and give him some money. Then he ran away so the nasty men for the RFL couldn't say mean things to him..... Got that?
3. Mike Turner wanted to keep his job so he told the nice Bridgnd men to Feck off.... Understand still?
4. Mike Turner spoke to a man up in north wales who had lots of money, nice toys and wanted to have a new toy. The man said mike turner could keep his job.
5. Mike Turner sold the club to the man from north wales.
6. Mike Turner kept his job. Leighton Samuel got somebody else to clean up his mess and get paid for it and lots of people down in South Wales were sad.
7. Leighton Samuel COULD have sold the club to the nice men form Bridgend and all the South Wales people would have been happy. But Leighton is a mean, nasty man and Mike is a liar who wanted to keep his job.
8. Nasty Leighton would not have closed the club down because he loves having money even more than being mean.

I hope that's dumbed down enough for you HH because I can't think any thicker than that, though I do have a cactus who's on your intellectual level.

Oh helmet, and I LOVE your naiive assumption that Leighton Samuel brought Noble to the Crusaders.
It is well known that Brian Noble is on an RFL contract that GUARANTEES his wages, because the competency of Samuel and Turner are well known.
Noble is not an idiot. He would not go to such a shambles of a club unless he could be sure of being paid.

Recent comical events surrounding players contracts at your club are well known and even Spongy wouldn't have the nerve / stupidity to challenge that statement.

Just ban this keyboard warrior, he has said multiple times that he doesn't even want an account. Do it for him, and delete it. He can't even have a reasonable debate without looking like a moronic turd

who are you then grendal. Give us your name