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Quote: Grendel "Kevin Ellis, a club employee, stated in his local (local HERE not THERE) newspaper column that it should be a well attended game because thousands of free tickets were given out to schools.'"

To be fair, there doesn't look to be thousands of children at Wrexham!

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Fantastic attendance, hope you can keep it up!

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Quote: Grendel "Goon, you want me to NAME them? And you KNOWING I'm from the place you pinched your club from.
Kevin Ellis, a club employee, stated in his local (local HERE not THERE) newspaper column that it should be a well attended game because thousands of free tickets were given out to schools.

Surely you read the Glamorgan Gazette?'"


Belive everything you read in the newspaper? More fool you!

Definately not thousands of schoolchilden. The number of children was probably in the hundreds not thousands.

Get your coat mate, your facts aren't really fizzing to well! icon_beat.gif

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But it was in the Glamorgan Gazette. [sizeTHE GLAMORGAN GAZETTE![/size What more proof do you need?

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Quote: Dan155 "At the moment its 10,500 because the terrace is closed, but with the terrace it would be 15,500.'"
I hope it's open when Hull and Rovers games are on icon_confused.gif:

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Quote: kt170496 "I hope it's open when Hull and Rovers games are on
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Quote: kt170496 "'"
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cos kr bring 1,000,000+ fans to every game. icon_wink.gif

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Very well done on getting 10k on a friday nite and live on sky, i really hope it works in wrexham i was a bit spectacle before when you moved up to north wales but if you get over 6000 each game it will deemed a sucess you should get plenty of away suppport as its on most peoples doorsteps and not 5 hours on a bus just hope the locals stick with you.

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Why is it that even though the Crusaders get a great crowd, many people on here still try to criticise them?

I doubt any Championship club would get that crowd against Leeds, even a few Superleague clubs cant get that figure. Be happy that they got a good crowd, they never managed anywhere near that last year.

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Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Why is it that even though the Crusaders get a great crowd, many people on here still try to criticise them?

I doubt any Championship club would get that crowd against Leeds, even a few Superleague clubs cant get that figure. Be happy that they got a good crowd, they never managed anywhere near that last year.'"
could be summed up in three words really
anger
fear
jealousy

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J.C.

Anger. Just anger. The Moss stole my club and moved it up North.

It looks like it might, MIGHT prove a success with a large crowd (that DID contain thousands of kids - but should not be diminished as a result of that) like the one against Leeds. It looks like it might go on to bigger and better things.

But it is STILL a club he stole. To buy the club and let it play in its natural home is one thing. To up sticks, say f u c k you to the supporters that were loyal for the previous 5 years and f u c k off 150 miles away is moral theft if it is not legal theft.

So just anger. Possibly some hatred as well.

Not fear. Why would I "fear" the Wrexham Crusaders? I've been abandoned by "my" club. What more can these new pretenders do?

Not jealousy. I don't envy the Wrexham Crusaders supporters because I detest their club. Why would I be jealous about not being involved in what I detest.

Purely anger.

I won't lie. I hope they collapse. I hope that just for once in an arbitrary, amoral universe the dirty dealers get just what they deserve. I am realistic enough to know that there is no such thing as justice (natural or otherwise). But I still hope for it.

SCREW the Wrexham Crusaders.

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Grendel, I can't see how you can calling buying something off somebody that wants to sell stealing?

Samuel wanted rid and nobody else other than Moss wanted to buy for the going rate. Simple as that really. It wasn't stealing and with nobody willing or able to take the club in South Wales it can hardly be called stealing.

Takeover, yes, relocation, yes, stealing, hardly. For a club to be stolen it has to be taken from somebody that owns it. Samuel owned it and willingly sold it to Moss. Nobody in South Wales wanted to take the club on. To be fair, the crowds and interest towards the end of the season couldn't have helped. If the club had been more professional off the field and marketed better who knows but it is all ifs, buts and maybe's.

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It's EASY to call it stealing Cru.

The club was bought, shut and "reopened" (IE A NEW CLUB FORMED) 150 miles away, with the MINIMUM connection to the original club possible that still allows the new club to use our franchise.

May not be theft in the legal sense, but as AJH could tell you (if he could actually be honest with himself) "legal" has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Morally it is theft.

If Moss was so hell bent on having his own RL club up in Wrexham, why didn't he just form one? Oh yeah, that's right, FAR easier to steal ours, shut it and replace it in SL with a barely recognisable replacement.

Without Moss, Samuel would have sold to BFL (or lose ALL his money) and the team would still be in its real home.

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How would they have sold to BFL as I understand it they would only have taken the club without the debt which would not have been allowed to happen.

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He cannot accept the club has been sold to someone in North Wales rather than Given to Someone in South Wales

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