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No I think we'll follow proper procedure instead.

Which of the teams we beat in NL1 would you give our place to?

Widnes? Naaah, hammered them.
Halifax? Remember last time they were in? What did they win? 2 matches?
Leigh? Didn't exactly cover themselves in glory last time either.

With all due respect, it is now a proven fact that the Celtic Crusaders played 6 ineligible players in order to achieve this.

Not something you want to be shouting form the roof tops about that is it?

Clearly they WERE eligible to play. Because they did.

But if you need to go digging for adminstrative errors to claim victory, fill yer boots.

I think we won many more matches then two in the 8 years we were in SL. We had one very very bad season when we went down.

No they weren't. This is why they have now been deported. Celtic have fielded ineligible players for the whole period of their stay in NL1 & NL2. This is a statement of fact and is irrefutable.




I'm not the one claiming victory here, that was you. What Celtic have done, by fielding these players - knowingly or otherwise - has more significant ramifications than just a few games against Widnes.

I think you'll also find that this may not be just a case of [i'administrative errors'[/i.



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All this talk of blaming UKBA for changing the rules for this situation just doesn't wash. The rules on working holiday visas were changed as far back as 2005. All that happened at the end of last season was a new points system was introduced. All clubs had a meeting with the UKBA in Manchester about this last year, therefore all should have been well aware of the situation. Even the UKBA cannot change the rules and then prosecute retrospectively. That, in itself, is illegal. Therefore the contracts of the six players involved must not have been adequate for those seasons.

As the UKBA quote suggests, this situation is far from over. The investigation is still ongoing and we'll soon find out just how culpable, or not, the Celtic Crusaders are in all this.

Indeed.

So please bear in mind that this country's laws of defamation cover both individuals and incorporated bodies (ie businesses). So please can everyone refrain from posting any potentially actionable accusations.

Thanks.

I find it laughable that you suggest having a new whipping boys in the league every year will actually improve the competition. Take Leigh for example as proof that not any club can come up to play the big boys.

play the big boys??????????


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Celtic would beat every team in the championship.

I'm not so sure they would with the team they can field at the mo!!!!

But given they have a a massive sky income to recruit a full time squad of quality I would expect any SL club to beat any championship club!

But the notion that they are the "Big Boys"! Well the use of that cliche and your interpretation of it made me laugh out loudly!!!

One day maybe, but most definately not yet!! Their situation is still precarious for now, tho I don't believe it will be should the club escape sanctions from the UKBA, cos I douby the RFL will do anything. Their rediness to distance themselves from the "departure Gate" fiasco or accept any responsibility is frightening. I believe they want a very large carpet and a brush!


Big boys!!!!! aye, if you like!

Can I be so bold as to ask your age and how long you have watched the game??
I may be mis-judging you here, but your post appear to lack an astonishing lack of insight into what the concept of SL, the removal of P+R, an amazingly apathetic approached by the RFL to clubs outside Sl and the 'expansion at any cost approach' has done for fans outside SL!

The removal of hope of playing in SL has had a massive impact on the Championship clubs as fans of clubs of many years now have a more "why bother" approach.

The lack of any empathy in your statement or acknowledgement of what has been achieved by the clubs you dismiss so readily, and the potential to achieve again but for the ridiculous way our game is now being managed. The public proclamations of how badly the crusaders have been managed this year resulting in the lastest fiasco fuels the notion that it wasn't right to include the crusaders when they did. I still believe it is certainly a system of apartheid the RFL are employing. It's just so wrong.

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Sort it out for yourself


The Celtic Crusaders cheated for the last 2/3 years

The club Knew about it

The RFL knew about it

Better still Richard Lewis and Nigel Woods Knew about it

Happy with that

Do you know Starbug - I was writing my reply last night, feeling sheeite after our dismal offerings v Barrow and I was thinking to myself, "how can I word this"??
I didn't really want to offend but the post irked me and so gave a considered reply that just repeated old drivel that I've spouted time and time again in a tired old fashion.

I read your post this morning before I set off to work and I thought to myself - "why didn't I just write that"??????

Three words encapsulating all my feelings as they were last night!!!
SOmetimes the direct approach says far more than the sheeeite I sometimes write!!

Keep smiling - hope you lot survive this season. Always had a soft spot for Leigh.