It has been confirmed this morning that crusaders will play most home games in wrexham and two in neath, also on tuesday the signings of Tony Martin, Nick Youngquest, Matt Utai and Michael Witt are set to be unvieled

Matt Utai's not being unveiled. He's retiring from the sport due to injury.

Read my post again. I referred to the recession. That was the context in which I said that the RFL should drop the insistence upon new stadia being part of the licence arrangement. (I don't think I referred to SL clubs specifically)

Note, I did say 'I don't think I referred to Superleague clubs specifically', thus indicating I was not sure. But I was right, wasn't I? I did refer to the recession.


In the context of the licensing policy, which is the context of the discussion, I do not think it is appropriate for the RFL to insist upon new stadia as one of the criteria during a recession.

You accused me/my club of double standards earlier but Saints started the process for their own new stadium before the licence criteria were decided; I think even before the licence system was decided. I can't speak for the other Superleague clubs as I don't know their position. However, during a recession (which was not around when this set of licenses were agreed), I think it inappropriate for the RFL to insist upon new stadia as a criteria for a licence.

I am not going to embark upon petty arguments with yet another bitter Championship club fan. Some of you sound like your stuck in the dim and distant past rather than the 21st century and some of you really do need to get a grip.

Whatever our opinions , we do get to watch our teams in modern 21 st century facilities , unlike you

I'm so pleased for you

and if the RFL (just for arguments sake) say Saints ground is a toilet, no more SL for you until you produce a new one, and the fiscal problems persist - I can just hear you shouting - yeh this is the 21st Century! We should be happy we're excluded from SL!!!! - my botty!!

rlRugby league needs 'pot of money' to succeed in Wales, says Leighton Samuelrl

RFL a farce it a heartlands sport and top players play for money.They wont get the support as it a football area.RFL give up and pack your bags.If i messed up that many times lifes would be lost.

But crusaders i wish you all the luck though in wrexham. I just feel sorry it has been taken away from south wales.

hmmm.. let me see South Wales has not turned out in numbers like the south of France for Super League Expansion??? who would have guessed that... however much the "northern" game wants & wishes to expand the core & loyal i.e. fan who will pay to see... is located in the North of this Isle. What if Leigh/Featherstone/Widnes or Halifax has been given the same funding & better Visa advice? Crowds better than 4k per home game would have been acheived, simply by by better away support alone, expand yes but small steps, if Wrexham had been the first step then yes a NL1 team 2 years ago would have been a good step.... but now to save face it is regression with Leigh and Widnes within spitting distance its laughable. Maybe a North Wales Wrexham "crusaders" will work in 2/3 time but it may have slowed or severed rugby league heartland (teams) to a slow beat in the process. We all want the game to expand but don't cut off the roots or the tree won't grow....

Hope this venture works as a the RFL have spent a lot of money on the game in Wales

To be honest i do not think the game will expand, as you got too many popular sports such as football and rugby union in other areas.If anything a cumbrian club be more viable, as their a decent interest already, with barrow and whitehaven.To be honest, i think keep to the heartlands, they just not interested in union strongholds.Union has the money now and the rfl can not support all these clubs.That why i think teams with decent attendances such as widnes should be in superleague.Teams such as widnes,leigh,fax would double in attendances if got in.Widnes already have fans from north wales and chester.