You are aware that "my team" are Keighley?

I rate Jermaine Wray highly but I don't think he'll ever play Super League.

My bad! But you never know...!

Your response was a good example of someone who couldn't think of anything intelligent to say and so dribbled garbage instead.

Saints [iare[/i getting a new ground, haven't you heard? We've been trying to get a new ground for 20 years but guess what? We haven't been able to afford one! It's only because we now have an astute businessman for a chairman - who with his City colleague rescued us from the brink of administration in 2002 - that we are in a position to build a new stadium now, and we have been in Superleague all along and in the top division for most if not all of Rugby League's history. Which is why I think the RFL should have dropped the insistence upon Superleague clubs having new stadia: clubs without the history and/or financial know-how of Saints should not be punished. We were going to get a new stadium anyway. This plan has been progressing through the various stages for five years, before the criteria were set for the franchises. So I really don't know what your pathetic response was all about. I was showing sympathy to those clubs who are in worse positions than Saints and Saints are not in a great position financially in spite of all their success, simply because at least in part we have a delapidated stadium that is like a financial black hole. Which we won't have any longer come the early part of the 2011 season.

yes it was.
Yet when Hunslet and Dews won the NL play-offs, they were not accepted by the SL chairmen because of their grounds!!

Yet you advocate the dispensing of the insistence by the RFL that SL clubs should have new stadia???

FWIW, I think you are correct. It's Not the 'end of the world argument' like, I just thought some double standards were being played out here given back then, the SL chairmen and the RFL used the ground as the reason for denied access to SL! Fair??

It has been confirmed this morning that crusaders will play most home games in wrexham and two in neath, also on tuesday the signings of Tony Martin, Nick Youngquest, Matt Utai and Michael Witt are set to be unvieled

Matt Utai's not being unveiled. He's retiring from the sport due to injury.

Read my post again. I referred to the recession. That was the context in which I said that the RFL should drop the insistence upon new stadia being part of the licence arrangement. (I don't think I referred to SL clubs specifically)

Note, I did say 'I don't think I referred to Superleague clubs specifically', thus indicating I was not sure. But I was right, wasn't I? I did refer to the recession.


In the context of the licensing policy, which is the context of the discussion, I do not think it is appropriate for the RFL to insist upon new stadia as one of the criteria during a recession.

You accused me/my club of double standards earlier but Saints started the process for their own new stadium before the licence criteria were decided; I think even before the licence system was decided. I can't speak for the other Superleague clubs as I don't know their position. However, during a recession (which was not around when this set of licenses were agreed), I think it inappropriate for the RFL to insist upon new stadia as a criteria for a licence.

I am not going to embark upon petty arguments with yet another bitter Championship club fan. Some of you sound like your stuck in the dim and distant past rather than the 21st century and some of you really do need to get a grip.

Whatever our opinions , we do get to watch our teams in modern 21 st century facilities , unlike you

I'm so pleased for you