do you honestly think dumb and dumber are capable of such self analysis?

I just do not see how anyone can say you can't blame the RFL/SL

If you want to emigrate to Australia they make sure that you are not going to arrive and be a burden upon them and their state hand outs. They make sure you have either your own means or a sponsor.
Now if we took this kind of sensible aproach all would need to do is look at how much running a team costs then tell whoever it is wanting to join the club that they need 3 years worth of funds before we let them in.

Its not that hard really is it?
If they can't come up with it or proof that there backers can't simply walk away they can't join.

I agree it does depend on the speed at which the crash-dummy chaos bus this whole issue is smacks them in the face.

I look at it like this...

an expansion club in South Wales... yeah, can support that it makes sense...

an expansion club in Wrexham... piontless, offers nothing new less than 30 miles to Widnes... smallish conurbation with no other catchment area! ... bordering stupid!

for me its Crusaders in South Wales or not at all!

Get on the VT and suggest the same , then wait for the ' flack '

said by a saints fan, who's club have not spent a penny on their urine stained pit of a ground for decades, get a life, get a new ground!

Totaly agree....had a great time in Bridgend this year

So as its looking like Wrexham, need some info. Bringing a family coach load when Hull play. is there anywere near the ground that will take 50 supporters of various ages.....8 to 80, you know the sort of thing.
Cheers
Pubs or clubs i meant to say

Thanks evan.....prob gonna be about 3,000 hull fans, was thinking about workingmans club or something

Town isn't too far away, theres a wetherspoons within walking distance.

Thanks mate

if they do get moved to wrexham, will there be a load of wrexham Fc fans coming in and ruining what rugby league prides on RESPECT

respect between supporters (it rarely goes off)

i KNOW Wrexham have a bad set of supporters (not all) by my own experience, they started a massive fight when i was at a crewe alex wrexham game a few years ago

I DONT WANT THAT

as many have said its a shame for their south wales based fans i feel sorry for them, and myself as i look forward to going porthcawl when we play them at bridgend

MESS MADE BY RFL, MESSY PATCH UP BY THE RFL

I would have thought the likes of widnes and leigh have a right to appeal? or less so leigh with them being relegated and then reinstated last year

Perhaps but I doubt that Widnes would want to go up this year as they would have to find a SL standard team from somewhere with little notice and they weren't the strongest team in CC either.

They will get a team.

Yours.

It will be called a "merger" but in reality the bulk of the club will decamp to Widnes and play a handful of games at Wrexham. But will happen in 2011 not 2010. And that way Widnes get back into SL in the current franchise round, and Crusaders are "saved" - in the strange-planet world of the great minds at Red Hall anyway.

Don't believe me? Go ask Sheffield and Hudds, or Hull and Gateshead, for the standard template. It just needs dusting off yet again.

And its a load of crap