Not the issue , the issue is that club is now dieing , and the governing body of this sport doesn't give stuff if they do , in fact they actually seem to want that club to die , along with several others

Typical SL fan, typical reply 'flat capper' yawn, yawn.
So when a fan from the low life of the Championship comes on and states a fact that some people don't like - poor crowds, you roll out thatb old insulting yarn.
Grow up pal, come up with something more constructive will you?

I doubt there were that many there anyway.

You wait til next season when we get more wins under our name and then the glory supporters, sorry Bridgend supporters will come and watch us play.
Our attendances will rise if not I fear that we will fold and it will be those people who can't be bothered to go watch their local SUPER LEAGUE team play.

And if you don't like it tough. The rfl have made their decision.

And I can feel your pain as the Bridgend Ravenss (local rugby team) have been relegated from the welsh premier.The ravens have been in the premier for 50 years, I think :S. And produced most of the Welsh stars. We are still producing stars. And now we have been forgotten.

The WRU banished the Celtic Warriors (Only Welsh Region) and I followed them thick and thin and been to every home game, no away games. And the WRU claim we ran out of money, which is a load of bullpoo.

So yes I do feel your pain.

Tough it may be. But I don't have to accept it. The more that is advocated for the game outside SL the more likely that one day a more sensible re-think of the game might be considered.


No, you think you do! Given the way this is done I doubt it. But as I can't appreciate how empassioned you are about the other team it's not a conclusive argument and not really significant in the "balls up" that is RL at the mo.

the point i think cru is trying to make is that as pepe mentioned its a small minority of people who are still bitter most have accepted and moved on.

the point is there is no need to inflame the now neutral fans. if its just one or two muppets let them have their drip and ignore them. by stirring $hit that may as you put it cause offence you risk turning the fans who'd given up worrying about back to being part of the minority.

I'm not bitter that Crusaders were given a franchise and the team I support weren't.

I am disappointed that the RFL may have blown another chance to develop the game in Wales, by rushing in a top-line team ahead of the development of a grass-roots base. I want a successful Welsh team (or two) in the top flight of British RL. I don't want Crusaders to fail. I worry that they might.

I also was, and am, angry that the RFL published its criteria for licence qualification, and then appeared to ignore it. I would rather the RFL said that "we, in conjunction with our broadcasting partners, want a Welsh team in SL", instead of claiming that Leigh's stadium didn't count as it wasn't open, their youth development didn't count as it was done by Miners and Easts, and Widnes' stable financial management didn't count because the previous administration had gone bust. But that's not bitterness at Crusaders, its frustration with the RFL.

Given that franchising is here and will be back on the agenda in 18 months, the questionmarks over the licensing process are part of the future, not dwelling in the past.

You may think I don't feel your pain but I do, honestly. Like I said the Celtic Warriors (the best team in Wales and the only true region) was shat on by the WRU, like all rugby in Bridgend is, and is forgotten. Same applies to the Bridgend Ravens who recently got relegated out of a top division which they have been in for many many years and have been champions and produced many welsh stars and British and irish lions star.

And Cardiff City have messed up their premiership hopes yet again. Which is extremely fustrating because they do it every year.

Excellent post. Not convinced about the "broadcasting partners" bit, but I have no doubts whatsoever that we were all after a single franchise spot whilst one was going to be awarded to either Toulouse or Celtic. FWIW, I said as soon as we went into administration we wouldn't get a licence and the RFL should have been honest and told us so from the beginning!

The general concensus around our way is that Fev will never get into SL while Cas and Wakey are in because of the proximity of the three clubs. Assuming that both clubs get new grounds or at least share one. What is your thoughts on Widnes getting into SL bearing in mind that Wire, Saints and Widnes are in even nearer proximity than the three Yorks sides.

I think deep down the RFL believe there are too many Yorkshire sides and would like to get rid of either Wakefield or Castleford. Tony Rea used to talk about that a lot. However, their problem is that to throw out a club on the grounds of location would be illegal as it falls foul of competitions law (there is a strong case for saying licences do anyway).

I feel given the set up in Widnes, if we manage to win the GF and the NRC either this year or next, the pressure on the RFL to put us in will be too strong to resist (probably at the expense of Wakefield or Salford). It will not change my opinion one iota. I really believe the RFL have this seriously wrong.

I should point out that I would rather Widnes be competitive in the league they are in than struggle. We aren't even a credible Championship conternder at the moment