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| Quote J20="J20"You know that i've heard Cru slag off every set of fans that hve been to BF!
Even calling many 'Racist' due to sheep chants
Get with the banter Bhoyo's!
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So you condone chanting, pakki at Asian fans then? Its the same thing.
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| Quote WPFiB="WPFiB"So you condone chanting, pakki at Asian fans then? Its the same thing.'"
IS IT FUZZICKLE!!!!!!!
Are you sheep. yes or no?
Do you sleep with sheep yes or no?
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| Quote J20="J20"IS IT FUZZICKLE!!!!!!!
Are you sheep. yes or no?
Do you sleep with sheep yes or no?'"
Are we Welsh a race?
Is it a derogatory racial stereotype?
Do you shout it because you think the fans of Celtic Crusaders are Welsh?
Are you Racist?
If you answer yes to the first 3 you also answer yes to the last.
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| Quote J20="J20"
Get with the banter Bhoyo's!
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Get with the banter Pakki's!
both unaccaptable and RACIST.
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| Quote WPFiB="WPFiB"Are we Welsh a race? No, your English and get over it!
Is it a derogatory racial stereotype?
Do you shout it because you think the fans of Celtic Crusaders are Welsh?
Are you Racist?
If you answer yes to the first 3 you also answer yes to the last.'"
It's get's shouted to EVRY yorkie side and they don't cry!
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| Quote J20="J20"It's get's shouted to EVRY yorkie side and they don't cry!'"
Didn't know Yorkshire was a race.
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| Quote WPFiB="WPFiB"Didn't know Yorkshire was a race.'"
you'd be suprised!
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| Quote WPFiB="WPFiB"Get with the banter Pakki's!
both unaccaptable and RACIST.'"
Bhoyos racist??? No it isn't!
It's neither indicative of race nor is it a fair comparison of the shortened version of someone from Pakistan that you so readily illustrate and IS offensive.
Boyos, I assume, is a mocking of a perceived dialecht, the same as shouting gerrem on saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarde when at a Hull game, or doing a "Calm down" Enfield/Whitehouse impression at Saints or Widnes - neither scousers but doesn't seem to stop people, but it's not something I would do!
Using the "racism" tag when it clearly isn't hinders the identification of the real cases of cancerous racist behaviour in our game. Use the term wisely. I don't believe you have in this instance.
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| Quote Rotherham Fev Fan="Rotherham Fev Fan"Bhoyos racist??? No it isn't!
It's neither indicative of race nor is it a fair comparison of the shortened version of someone from Pakistan that you so readily illustrate and IS offensive.
Boyos, I assume, is a mocking of a perceived dialecht, the same as shouting gerrem on saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarde when at a Hull game, or doing a "Calm down" Enfield/Whitehouse impression at Saints or Widnes - neither scousers but doesn't seem to stop people, but it's not something I would do!
Using the "racism" tag when it clearly isn't hinders the identification of the real cases of cancerous racist behaviour in our game. Use the term wisely. I don't believe you have in this instance.'"
I disagree, Boyos has negative connotations around here, to me it suggests all Welshmen can aspire to do nothing but mine coal and sing songs. I would say the same about referring to you lot on the other side of offa's dyke as Nigels as that would imply you are all upper class halfwits!!
Apologies to anyone called Nigel! LOL
Shouting stuff like "Hiya butt", "he's over by there mun", or "He'll tackle you now just in a minute" would be mocking speech patterns and dialect and perfectly ok in my eyes but none of the visitors have been that imaginative yet preferring to go for the easy racist "sheepshaggers" chant.
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| Quote spegs="spegs"Nothing like a "ironic" response to vindicate my point. Thanks.'"
Vindicating that you are a muppet? Of course.
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| Quote WPFiB="WPFiB"I disagree, Boyos has negative connotaions around here, to me it suggests all Welshmen can aspire to do nothing but mine coal and sing songs. I would say the same about referring to you lot on the other side of offa's dyke as Nigels as that would imply you are all upper class halfwits!!
Apologies to anyone called Nigel! LOL
Shouting stuff like "Hiya butt", "he's over by there mun", or "He'll tackle you now just in a minute" would be mocking speech patterns and dialect and perfectly ok in my eyes but none of the visitors have been that imaginative yet preferring to go for the easy racist "sheepshaggers" chant.'"
I don't understand your argument.
The use of "boyos" is a reflection on a dialecht. Not a criticism or abusive term of what you are or where you come from. The use P word to can be used as an abusive abreviation of anyone coming from Pakistan. The N word another vile term used by bigots to describe those of afro-carribean descent.
Someone saying "ey up, by eck" in a mocking tone is a p!zz take of how I speak - not what I am or where I'm from. Boyos is the same.
But it's a facile argument and detracts from the main thrust of the thread so I'll leave it there safe to say we disagree.
Robin Evans
24 carat born Yorkie who descends from GWENT!!!!
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| I agree "boyos" is neither racist nor xenophobic.
But I also agree that "sheepshaggers" is xenophobic and lacking in imagination (seeing as it is the insult of choice for ALL travelling fans so far this season).
It doesn't bother methough , because until someone comes up with something new and / or witty it just shows that our rivals do not have the mental wherewithal to needle us. In the pantheon of great put downs it's up / down there with "well ...... you smell!"
Unfortunately it is not fun to enter into a battle of wits with the clearly unarmed.
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