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I went to yesterday's game and thought that you have the makings of a a very good club.
Your stadium is good and better than some in SL, your fans showed a passion for your team and numbers will increase when the results turn your way.

These early years will be difficult both on and off the field, but give it time and it may well turn out good for you guys. I enjoyed my visit and will return next year. Stick with it and you could well take Quins place in the next set of licenses.

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Glad you enjoiyed your visit. Thanks for the kind words.

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I echo these words.

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I'll echo those sentiments, I still want to get up to Wrexham before the end of season. I honestly think you've got some potential to go places. Is Wrexham your permenant home now?

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Let's hope so. Only 3 more home games at the Racecourse though v Salford, Saints and Hull KR. Two other 'home' games are down south in Neath as part of the 'agreement' to move to Wrexham. Next season all home games should be up here with a recognised match day - fixtures and times have been all over the place this season - doesn't help in trying to create a regular fan base.

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I remember all these comments coming from fans of other SL teams not so long ago. Rugby league was always thought of as being a really good sport for sticking with your fans but it did not happen for the original fans of the Crusaders. Before anyone says anything about moving on I have to say that I was not a supporter of the team when they played in Bridgend. Of all the people that used to go there though, the biggest mouths that used to let off steam about being deserted by the old management, they travel to Wrexham to watch. As I said, I am not a supporter but I feel that a lot of the supporters now will not keep travelling to watch them over the long term. A great number of them were just hangers on who never supported any team before the Crusaders started up. The same is now happening at theRacecourse. Another reason why I think they will not survive the long term is the fact that the owner stated from the start that he was only interested in getting his hands on the franchise was solely to save the footbal team who were on the brink of extinction until then.
On another note, when the franchises come up for grabs again, I have heard from fans of a number of teams that they are going to start a petition to drop the Crusaders in favour of a Northern team because of the fact that the team at this time are not the team who were awarded the licence and therefore should not be readmitted due to breaking almost all the terms that were originally agreed.
As a Bradford Bulls fan I have enough problems of my own but I cannot agree that they deserve to bein SL and look forward to seeing them play the likes of Keighley and Featherstone in the future

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Quote: albertwilliams "I remember all these comments coming from fans of other SL teams not so long ago. Rugby league was always thought of as being a really good sport for sticking with your fans but it did not happen for the original fans of the Crusaders. Before anyone says anything about moving on I have to say that I was not a supporter of the team when they played in Bridgend. Of all the people that used to go there though, the biggest mouths that used to let off steam about being deserted by the old management, they travel to Wrexham to watch. As I said, I am not a supporter but I feel that a lot of the supporters now will not keep travelling to watch them over the long term. A great number of them were just hangers on who never supported any team before the Crusaders started up. The same is now happening at theRacecourse. Another reason why I think they will not survive the long term is the fact that the owner stated from the start that he was only interested in getting his hands on the franchise was solely to save the footbal team who were on the brink of extinction until then.
On another note, when the franchises come up for grabs again, I have heard from fans of a number of teams that they are going to start a petition to drop the Crusaders in favour of a Northern team because of the fact that the team at this time are not the team who were awarded the licence and therefore should not be readmitted due to breaking almost all the terms that were originally agreed.
As a Bradford Bulls fan I have enough problems of my own but I cannot agree that they deserve to bein SL and look forward to seeing them play the likes of Keighley and Featherstone in the future'"


Complete rubbish.

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Quote: albertwilliams "I remember all these comments coming from fans of other SL teams not so long ago. Rugby league was always thought of as being a really good sport for sticking with your fans but it did not happen for the original fans of the Crusaders. Before anyone says anything about moving on I have to say that I was not a supporter of the team when they played in Bridgend. Of all the people that used to go there though, the biggest mouths that used to let off steam about being deserted by the old management, they travel to Wrexham to watch. As I said, I am not a supporter but I feel that a lot of the supporters now will not keep travelling to watch them over the long term. A great number of them were just hangers on who never supported any team before the Crusaders started up. The same is now happening at theRacecourse. Another reason why I think they will not survive the long term is the fact that the owner stated from the start that he was only interested in getting his hands on the franchise was solely to save the footbal team who were on the brink of extinction until then.
On another note, when the franchises come up for grabs again, I have heard from fans of a number of teams that they are going to start a petition to drop the Crusaders in favour of a Northern team because of the fact that the team at this time are not the team who were awarded the licence and therefore should not be readmitted due to breaking almost all the terms that were originally agreed.
As a Bradford Bulls fan I have enough problems of my own but I cannot agree that they deserve to bein SL and look forward to seeing them play the likes of Keighley and Featherstone in the future'"


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You got to love Trolls.

Albertwilliams has got to be the worst attempt every. Does he not realise that his own club is up the creek without a paddle. He says only reason you moved up north was due to the football team almost going to the wall. Rumors are that the Bulls are going to play home games at the Bradford City ground. Wether true or not the rumors have surfaced this year. And what about the crap re supporters not going to Wrexham. Dont have a go at them just becuase the gates at the Bulls have dropped. Where has the thousands of glory hunters gone. More than likely siting at home praying the could get Nobby back. What does he get ohhh yes POTTER. The saints fans wants POTTER out now not at the end of the season. Even worse rumor on the Wigan forum is that Feka is on his away on a 2 year deal. Feka is the prop who cant get his place in the Warriors side at the moment as hes not up to Maguires standard as he only plays 20 min maximum. We even played Tuson as a prop on Friday. Tuson is a young player just coming through the ranks at Wigan.

So instead of coming on another teams forum and having a right moan you have a crap coach, crap team and crap stadium with a dark future ahead. At least the crusaders have a decent stadium and a better coach. Tbh the more i read your post its obvious your a bitter South Walian jealous that the crusader side now looks to have a future somehthing it did not have 6 months ago and something that the Bulls dont look like having given the your stadium is very poor abd your over reliance on signing over paid imports on a look out for a wage. Youve had over 10 years in a Salary Cap era to sort out the youth development in Bradford and yet bugger all is coming through. Burgess is the only talent to come throuh it ion the last 3-4 seasons and hes gone.

Dam need to go im ina total state of depression give the beating the Wire gave Wigan on Friday cant cope with the bleakness of knowing were in the play offs so soon. At least if the Crusaders played Featherstone they could beat them. Bradford are that bad they would not. Your not making the play offs this season thats how bad you have become.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: albertwilliams "I remember all ...BLAH BLAH BLAH'"

Albert me old china. I remember when London wouldn't be relegated even if they finished bottom. I remember when 9because we didn't magic a team of cocneys straight away) we were just a team full of Aussies. I remember the abuse on these boards that London fans used to take because your northern traditional clubs didn't get any revenue from our away supporters. I also remember when out gates (or lack of them were discussed on a weekly basis). I remember when we were voted back into SL in 2005 after the Inland Revenue went after us and I remember which clubs voted against us........I remember a lot of things about you and your flat earth mates posting anti-expansionist boll0x on a weekly basis......and yet, here we still are.......15 years in and the least foreign team in SL. More cockney accents than others..........and even if we are struggling, our loyal 2,500 fans have stuck with the team.
Bradford on the other hand are a club in decline. Shi7 ground, team in freefall, little hope of winning anything again and 6k for your last home game.....6k?
Crusaders deserve to be in SL. They, like Catalans and London before will eventually get more local lads playing the game and as a result, will improve the national team....Rome wasn't built in a day.....(but it looks like oddslum was)...

Keep the fires burning my cottage burning buddies and ignore the trolls.....they will soon get bored and return to fiddling with their sisters icon_wink.gif

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Not that Im going to dwell on it but to be honest Bridgend sadly just doesn't deserve a professional team of any sport because they just don't turn out to support it in numbers. Bridgend RU and the region after that which lasted a year had crowds sub 3,000 despite winning a championship.The amateur Union Club that plays there has since been relegated and isn't even the best club in town anymore, which considering the history of that club is a disgrace .The Celtic Crusaders averaged 3,500 in SL slightly better. I know the majority of the fans of the now defunct Celtic Crusaders were NOT from the Bridgend area. The set up in Wrexham is very different, thank god in many respects, it may not seem like anything has changed to you Northerners but from close up its a different world with a few familiar faces. Its not the same club that won a 4 year licence 2 years ago.

I still think there is space for a SL club in South Wales in the future and that it would have a better foundation/support than whats up in Wrexham at present but I don't begruge them for trying and making a very good go of it so far.Its a very useful South-North pathway we have.

South Wales Scorpions are the way forward now here.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: cardiffcrusaderrob "South Wales Scorpions are the way forward now here.'"

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PROMOTE SCORPIONS/remove Bradford (terrible stadium, fickle fans etc...), let Leeds play Huddersfield in their DERBY match...scorpions v Crusaders as a real welsh derby.....leave Catalan v Quins as the ultimate derby icon_wink.gif
Seriously, when it comes to mistakes.....crusaders in bridgend was up there with PSG.......but crusaders survived, moved, adapted and deserve to be in SL. Bradford fans like the poster above are an example of why their club are in decline.......they were the trail blazers in the early days of SL.......now they just trail (losses to quins rl and salford in the last 2 weeks negate any attempted smart ars3d comeback BTW)

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icon_smile.gif I think the Crusaders RL move to wrexham has been a positive bonus for Rugby League and the club. Hopefully the Scorpions will find their true level in the next few years which I hope will be as a good competitive Championship club.

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Well heres 5 facts

1) the Crusaders under Noble have now won 3 times as many games as John Dixon did last season - if you include the cup game against York.

2) We are not bottom of the Superleague nor will we finish bottom !

(In fact some folk believe we may well make the play-offs with most of our remainding games home in Wales)

3) The South Wales anti-League fans have stopped saying " you won't last"

4) We have just done our first double

5) we have our own welsh feeder side - the Scorpions

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