Guess that must mean that I've won the debate then!!

Anyway, why don't you have a word with the mods on your board to lift my ban and I'll happily debate with the rest of you!!!

Problem is, since we lost - is next week v cas genuinely daunting?

I have a new plan... Stand by.

The frightening thing is that Catalans were still in the game despite only winning around 10% of the rucks, even when leading in the first half, Hull dominated the wrestle and the Catalans 'peel' was virtually non-existent. This allowed Hull attackers straight up to play the ball without the Catalans defenders being set in markers or the defensive line. As a result we were always on the back foot and Hull marched us up the field repeatedly.

That we were still in the game (thank you Westerman) was a miracle in itself, had we snatched a point, I would have gone straight to the bookies to get the odds on Hull finishing outside the eight as to have so much of an advantage and not win a game is pretty much criminal.

all IMO of course.

We were drowning in it at Wembley and Huddersfield.

You really do post some rubbish. The determining factor in the game was the kicking conditions. If we'd kicked all ours we'd have won. If Bosc had kicked more, they'd have won. Simple as that.

Apologies for prolonging it!