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| cultech 24 - bamber bridge 32 cracking day for rugby ,very tough game very physical the home team went down to 12 after 1 of there lads started throwing punches ,cultech kept going all day but ran out of steam and had a few injuries 7 is a very good player for them,but in the end our fitness told ,we got sloppy at the end and gifted them 2 trys with 4 min to go as we switched not happy about mad game look closer,good luck for the rest of the season and your cup final
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| Wigan St Pats 12 - 46 Hindpool
On an absolutely baking day in Wigan we managed to come away with a very convincing win and probably the best performance away from home I have seen from a Hindpool team. In the first half we got of to a flyer, going in for two try's in the first 10 minutes to take a lead that we would never surrender. After this St Pats came into the game off the back of a few errors and a lot of debatable decisions from the referee, at one point we defended 8 sets on our line off the back of penalties before eventually conceding. Given good field position those lads can really play rugby and their movement is very good. We traded try's going in at the break 12-18.
The 2nd Half performance from us was outstanding. Very few errors, great organistation and controlled the game both in attack and defence. With us having the majority of posession Pats really started to fatigue in the heat. We crossed the line 8 times in the second half, with 3 being ruled out (2 wrongly in our opinion) but luckily this had no bearing on the game, winning the 2nd half 28-0. Credit to them though as they never threw in the towel and pressed us all game. 3, 6 & 7 for them were outstanding throughout!
Good luck to Pats for the rest of the season, great bunch of lads and I hope they can get a few of their problems with lads not training sorted as they could be a real force with the right commitment.
Next up is another tough fixture at home vs Culcheth. First time the two teams will have met and no doubt will be a cracking game looking at their results this season.
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| Yet another game runined by a referee just not up to the job........ there are 34 players out there each week putting their bodies on the line, they deserve a man in the middle who can control a game, keep it flowing and not contsantly frustrate the players with poor descision making, which then sees their testosterone fuelled frustrations take over.
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| eagle 1 you cnt blame a ref every time you get beat your team push the limits you are a good team but when your team throws punches and so many high shots you get punished, iv no idea what happened at hindpool but I wouldn't like to be a ref
haydock 36-18 bamber bridge was a very tough and hard game of rugby played in the right way a couple of slack moments cost us very happy with how the team played esp with the amount of players missing,we got a lot of praise after the game ,was so hot and played at high pace but really enjoyed it
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| Not blaming the ref for our lose, just saying the standard of the refs this season is well below par...... all players in this division deserve bettter, as you say you don't know what went on at Hindpool, but I believe Portico had a similar experience with the same ref on their visit up north.
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| The ref was very poor for both sides and Hindpool were far from happy with him. The try that you had disallowed I'm told should have been awarded but we also had a try disallowed straight after which should have stood it was a farcical few minutes, its swings and roundabouts. It was your poor discipline that cost you in the end.
Your coach spent more time time on the pitch than most the players and at 1 point he was taking you off the pitch it was embarrassing to watch.
The Portico game was totally different they were threatening the ref from the start of the game, every other tackle was high and how they lasted an hour before getting someone sent off is anyone's guess. They play a very physical game and its no wonder that from time to time the line is crossed but i would say their approach to games wins them more than ut loses them so why change. It's easy to blame the ref when you get beat but teams including us should look closer to home for the real reason.
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| At no stage am I blaming the ref for our lose, the point that I'm making is that a strong referee would lead to the sort of game all teams deserve, he WAS poor for both sides.
I totally agree our discipline let us down, it has been a frustrating season and our lads need to learn to just get on with the game, but alot of these frustrations have been brought about by below standard refereeing.
This season we have seen a player sent off for stamping, when the 'victim' of the said stamp told the ref that it hadn't happened,the ref of this game admitted it was one of the worse games he'd had, a game abandoned then reinstated, an opposition player sent off and then brought back from the changing rooms and told he could play again, a discipine report submitted saying a player was sent off in 2nd minute when he was actually on the field and scored in the 14t, a ref who told us he didn't mind a few high tackles, after all this isnt football and is what the spectators want to see
The best ref we had this season was away against Portico, who as you say play a very physical game and can be verbally intimidating, but this ref controlled the game and we played a very disciplined game.
We need the man in the middle, without him there is'nt a game, all players have to respect this man, but he also has to have respect for the 26 men on the field and the efforts that they are putting into the game.
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| Agree with you there the ref had a poor game and I'm sure he knows this. Our lads really weren't happy and when the winning team is complaining then that says a lot to me.
The games between Bridge, Hindpool, Portico, Eagles and Wildboars are all going to be pretty close there is little to chose between the sides and games between those deserve to have decent refs. The guy on Saturday would have been helped a lot if he had touch judges and I cant see why they couldn't be appointed as there weren't many games on in Barrow.
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| Who was the referee shawy?
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| I cnt say touch judges do help we had 2 on sat and the ref didn't use them what so ever , the ref sat admit to us after the game he mad 2 mistakes and said sorry to us but they cost us 12 points,it is hard to be a ref and with 26 lads on the pitch trying to control the game, I think at some point the ref are going make mistakes and I know its crap when it affects your team but I think every team has had bad desicons,
what players have stood out for you this year
hindpools 1 is good
culthech 7 is a good player
pats had a tough prop
wildboars 6 is a good player
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| just found out the dates for the play offs are 21st sept and the final is on the 28th both semi and final will be at neutral grounds as well
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| Referee was Steve Parkin
We won't be available to play on the 28th Sept so that might mean we opt out the play offs if we finish amongst it.
Jacko is very dangerous for you and your pretty useful yourself. Also your small prop runs all day
Jonny Cunningham the prop at Accy is a useful player, wouldn't mind him back at Hindpool.
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| Wigan st pats have lets us down for tomorrow which is disappointing, we haven't had a league game since 15/06 which isn't great. Had a similar situation last year where we Didnt have a league game for two months. I know with summer rugby numbers are bound to be lower due to other comitments but it's getting beyond a joke now.
I know it's easy to critise and offer no solutions but I don't know what the way forward is for clubs/league, going back to winter wouldn't work for me. In every game I have played in I have enjoyed and I think the NWML are doing everything they can. Is it down to individual clubs.
We have had what 2/3 teams decide they wanted to drop down leagues this season, surley that's down to clubs being honest with themselves at the start of the season.
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| Was discussed at the league meeting and that was my view then - it's the responsibility of clubs to be honest at start of year; not the 'fault' of summer. That's been the big issue in Div 3.
Apart from Hindley A, Div 4 seems to have been the most stable division outside Prem!
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| Accrington 14-bamber bridge 24 not a very good performance from us did not do the basic well and just played a terrible game, take nothing away from Accrington the pushed us all the way and was a very tough game, the ref was unfit and I bet we gave away 20 plus pens compared to accys very few pens, but we got 2 points and that is all that matters
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