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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "I'm going to go against the grain and say I haven't given up on Keating, although he has largely been rubbish.
Games three to about eight I thought he showed promise, he has a decent short kicking game somewhere trying to get out, but he severely lacks that yard of pace, or savvy and awareness of where the near defenders are from step to go through the gap that a genuine quality half has to have.
I'm in favour of switching him to nine, but can we all please remember that it's his brother that is/was an NRL hooker.'"
Would agree with that.
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| I also think KK will come good for what it's worth ...
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| Quote: easthull4 "Having been a Rovers follower for over 50 years I feel that I have to say there are times when it disgusts me some of the comments that are posted on here about certain player, this time Keating is the one who is being abused. I realise everyone is entitled to there opinions I have criticised players myself but The abuse he is getting far too much now he is not as bad as some people are saying . Give the lad a chance mind if he has any sense he won't take any notice of some of the morons on here he will just laugh all the way to the bank'"
Come on now, you now we have to have the "Dwayne Barker" scapegoat of the year award every season, unfortunately for Keating he appears to be this years recipient.
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| Jason netherton got over been the other years scapegoat and is playing better than ever
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| Agree with fun time frankie Jason netherton is having his best season for a number of years. Well worth a new 1 year deal.
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| Keating will not 'come good' in my opinion although everyone to their opinion. Not at scrum half anyway although I would definitely give him a go at 9.
Sneyd is a great signing for Hull, when he switched play and direction, assessed what options were available in the blink of an eye and then sent a pin point kick to the winger to pull the game out of the fire...that was the only single thing that could possibly have saved the game for Cas he saw it and then executed it.
The big thing is that Sneyd was in hyper intensive mode a ball of energy, alert, ever seeking any opportunity for him to exploit. Keating is in a tunnel vision of making sure he is following the game plan, how can he possibly ever 'come good' as a scrumhalf?
The mindsets are polar apart. In actual fact Keating can kick, pass , tackle and run every bit as good or better than Sneyd. He has all the core skills he probably looks great in training.
But the big difference is the mindset. Whilst one has the mindset of 'Whatever happens I am going to find a way to win this game for my team ' the other has a mindset of 'whatever happens I am going to follow the gameplan'.
As I say Keating can pass, kick, tackle his core skills are spot on. Put him at 9 with a very defined role, that will get him more involved, get him running with the ball from dummy half it could be the making of him.
He doesn't have the imagination, energy or drive to 'come good' at 7. It's not possible.
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| If your right how did he manage to play nearly a 100 nrl games without getting found out
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| Quote: fun time frankie "If your right how did he manage to play nearly a 100 nrl games without getting found out'"
Dropped and in reserve grade for nearly all of 2013....and not a single offer to stay in NRL.
I don't actually say this means he couldn't make it in Super League I base my opinion on what he has done since he got here.
And I actually rate him! He has all the core skills but I am telling you he cannot and will not ever be a Millward a Murphy a Webster or a Dobson or even a Sneyd. Its just not possible. But maybe he could be a Josh Hodgson.
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| The chairman has offered him a wedge plus to go so not not looking good for the bloke...
Unfortunately our budget does not stretch to a top class replacement or a player of rugby intelligence, apparently we only pay six figures to props, people called Travis and wingers..we already need most of our budget to replace Josh, as the only local players we pay well , or massively overpay, are crap centres who cannot tackle...our best player doesn't even get an offer to make him change his mind..
Sadly what happens when the chairman and CEO/drain cleaner are left in charge of the salary cap, is that you are left looking at the middle tier next year without much hope...
Absolute travesty, entire Hull Rugby League in the same boat, really unbelievable when you stop to consider that a minimum of £20 million has been spent on the respective first teams in the last 10 years...where is all that dough..??
Back in Aus for the best part, or spent on pubs or in Brough...any of it deserved???
Not much...
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| Quote: PAC "I also think KK will come good for what it's worth ...'"
Matty Beharrell would probably come good too if he was given enough chances.
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| Quote: Voltaire "The chairman has offered him a wedge plus to go so not not looking good for the bloke...
Unfortunately our budget does not stretch to a top class replacement or a player of rugby intelligence, apparently we only pay six figures to props, people called Travis and wingers..we already need most of our budget to replace Josh, as the only local players we pay well , or massively overpay, are crap centres who cannot tackle...our best player doesn't even get an offer to make him change his mind..
Sadly what happens when the chairman and CEO/drain cleaner are left in charge of the salary cap, is that you are left looking at the middle tier next year without much hope...
Absolute travesty, entire Hull Rugby League in the same boat, really unbelievable when you stop to consider that a minimum of £20 million has been spent on the respective first teams in the last 10 years...where is all that dough..??
Back in Aus for the best part, or spent on pubs or in Brough...any of it deserved???
Not much...'"
What's with the abuse re the CEO? The Chairman and CEO are not left in charge of the salary cap, they are in charge of it. That's what chairmen and CEOs do in our sport. You seem to be in possession of a lot of information about salaries and other happenings at the club. I wonder how much is accurate and how much is made up to support your point of view as you vent your feelings. I would have though a "top class replacement" would be "a player of rugby intelligence". You would not be looking for one or the other.
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| Quote: PAC "I also think KK will come good for what it's worth ...'"
Same here, he has a lot of good aspects to his game and Burns wasn't that good in his first season. Perhaps a try at hooker and give youth a chance at scrum half, it's working for FC with Abdull.
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| Quote: Voltaire "The chairman has offered him a wedge plus to go so not not looking good for the bloke...
Unfortunately our budget does not stretch to a top class replacement or a player of rugby intelligence, apparently we only pay six figures to props, people called Travis and wingers..we already need most of our budget to replace Josh, as the only local players we pay well , or massively overpay, are crap centres who cannot tackle...our best player doesn't even get an offer to make him change his mind..
Sadly what happens when the chairman and CEO/drain cleaner are left in charge of the salary cap, is that you are left looking at the middle tier next year without much hope...
Absolute travesty, entire Hull Rugby League in the same boat, really unbelievable when you stop to consider that a minimum of £20 million has been spent on the respective first teams in the last 10 years...where is all that dough..??
Back in Aus for the best part, or spent on pubs or in Brough...any of it deserved???
Not much...'"
Good post. Both clubs missed a massive opportunity to spend in the right places during the licencing era when there was no risk involved and now both likely to be on the outside looking in enviously at the top level next season when the divisions split.
Do you really have a winger on £100k+????
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| I think Keating can go out and execute a game plan, but struggles when having to make spontaneous decisions.
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| Quote: Voltaire "The chairman has offered him a wedge plus to go so not not looking good for the bloke...
Unfortunately our budget does not stretch to a top class replacement or a player of rugby intelligence, apparently we only pay six figures to props, people called Travis and wingers..we already need most of our budget to replace Josh, as the only local players we pay well , or massively overpay, are crap centres who cannot tackle...our best player doesn't even get an offer to make him change his mind..
Sadly what happens when the chairman and CEO/drain cleaner are left in charge of the salary cap, is that you are left looking at the middle tier next year without much hope...
Absolute travesty, entire Hull Rugby League in the same boat, really unbelievable when you stop to consider that a minimum of £20 million has been spent on the respective first teams in the last 10 years...where is all that dough..??
Back in Aus for the best part, or spent on pubs or in Brough...any of it deserved???
Not much...'"
How many contradictions can you get in one post...
We've offered a wedge to get rid of Keating, yet we only spend £100k+ on props, Travis (who is a half back btw) and wingers. Now not being funny but I would assume Caro or Dave H are on nowhere near 100k so not sure who our other big money winger is. We wont offer our best player any more money but seemingly will pay KK a wedge to leave? and to top all this as well as props, travis and wingers we also spend a lot on crap centres who can't tackle.
To add a counter arguement I would assume the CEO has in the past spent a fair few quid on back rowers, Newton & Galea. A fair bit on a full back Briscoe and even more on Dobbo so its not all props wingers and Travis really.
As for the £20m that has alledgedly been spent I would assume its been spent in getting us promoted, keeping us up and becoming an established SL side that ten years ago seemed like a pipe dream. Do we want to progress more, sure we do but that lot you just posted seemed a little left field.
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