I think this is right.
The obstruction rule is really annoying me, but you are spot on as to why it happens and it needs clamping down on. Some of the replays now are becoming embarrassing for the sport.

Going on the other points, and in relation to the theme on this thread, I think what annoys fans is the perception some teams appear to get away regularly with holding down (for example)

I do think that Rovers fans are getting carried away with the victim tag and needs to stop.

couldn't agree more, you see less and less tries scored by genuine skill and trickery these days.
and the tackles and PTB's are a mess!

I agree up to a point, but it's the job of coaches to squeeze every last bit of advantage for their team, without being penalised. As Patrick Viera said after Muller dived in the Germany Portugal world cup game, to the outraged Adrian Childs and Lee Dixon, if you don't want players doing it change the rules, it's the same with RL.
Clear up ball steals by saying either anything goes, however many are involved in the tackle etc, or out law it all together. Make it so a pass has to actually travel backwards, non of this flat pass business. And for fecks sake, lets's go back to having to treat referees with absolute respect, it really is getting more and more like football, and recent incidents with Peacock, Brough and Weyman highlight this. Did anyone on here play amateur back in Albert Speckmans era, you could look at him the wrong way and be penalised or sent off, but the that respect was something the game could rightly be proud of, and could be easily restored by adoptin g a zero tolerance policy to this behaviour.
There's stacks of areas, such as wrestling, dummy runners, play the balls that could be "cleaned up" but as long as there are loop holes, the coaches wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't maximise their teams chances to win by exploiting them.

The whole obstruction thing is confusing me now. To my mind there are 2 forms of obstruction. 1 where a player clearly hides behind his own player to prevent a tackle....and then there is the one which is causing all the problems. The whole idea of a dummy runner is to confuse the defenders and get them to tackle the wrong player. So now what is happening is defenders are intentionally running at dummy runners to force the penalty. So to my mind this problem is now past the point of an easy fix and someone somewhere is going to have to make a decision, as this can't go on as it is.

I also agree that the only person who should be able to speak to the ref is the captain, and the pressure we are seeing players giving refs should be 10 mins in the bin every time order would soon be restored

we can slag the official's off as much as we like but they didn't leave Josh Hodgson with a 1 on1 tackle with big Eorl on his own 10 metre line that he missed. They also didn't leave Burns with a 1 on1 with Larne Patrick 10 yards out that he missed too. No that was us. if you can't get bodies into the tackle against an on rushing Crabtree that close to your line then you will concede.

3 of us we're actually saying how the Craven Park crowd has changed, when you 1st got into SL it was a scary place to come with a packed vociferous East Stand making so much noise - for the team and making it such an intimidating place to go, and it really was you couldn't hear yourself think in the past, compare that to now where its thousands of voices just constantly booing or screeching for a penalty, no ear splitting choruses of 'red red robin', no intimidating Hull Kr chants, just boos and wails, why did the crowd stop doing what made it a hell of a place to come to into what was almost an embarrassment at times this week ?

It's a shame really cos although it was intimidating it was also spine tingling at times and made supporters like us very envious of your lot !!

It changed during the last season of Morgan's reign.
Gone was the atmosphere fuelled by a decade in the lower leagues and entered the attitude that we should be in the top 4 all the time. Sections turned on Morgan and some of the players and its deteriorated since. Now a large section sound like a typical Hull crowd at any sporting event, moaning and turning on their own, demanding the coach be sacked after every defeat.
Yes the constant braying at officials is embarrassing but to cite that as the reason for the poor atmosphere is disingenuous.
There were fans thrown out after the game for trying to attack the officials near the tunnel Thursday. This may explain the chairman's statement after as it is out of hand now.
This doesn't change the fact that the Sharp gang aren't up to the job and are a spiteful petty incompetent lot made even more Crystal clear by the non sensical video ref decisions. Video refs should be done away with. Useless time wasting concept.
Blaming coaches for issues in the game is not going to address anything and naive. The officials can't keep up with the pace of changes in the game. But if there fundamentally incompetent it doesn't matter what you change.
Roby on Thursday tried to influence the game against Rovers every time he could. As he he did at Cas. Spiteful pathetic little turd who isn't fit to do his job.

Were you one of those thrown out for trying to attack the spiteful pathetic little turd?

Why do you keep coming on here and asking stupid questions?
Pr1ck.

You really do have some fukwits following your club, don't you

None bigger than you.

Mods can you get rid of this pair of children, whose sole purpose seems to be who can come out with the biggest insult to the other.