I know we did and your trying to make it sound even worse I have this thing about disallowed tries there not tries so we conceded five tries that's it not five tries and if that would happened it would have have been eight tries or if he hadn't dropped the ball it would have been more so in the end we were well beaten played poorly that's it

What did they do on that warm weather training camp? 4 weeks training in 1 week ?

Good way to look at it. I presume that you didn't feel aggrieved at ganson's VR decision last year at MM? I do think that disallowed tries are an indication of the overall flow of a game and one team's dominance though

I agree to a certain extent you could go on forever if Eden could pass cockayne would have scored and as for the magic weekend game it just equaled out what happened the year before to me both key decisions were terrible

the thing with disallowed tries is that if its not a sky game those same disallowed tries would probably stand. so if we hadn't have been embarrassed on Sky we'd probably maybe definitely have been embarrassed even more. 48 - 10

So basically, our defence is exactly on a par with yours. Are you going to start a 'Radford out' thread?

In 3 weeks or so it will be 40 years since I watched my 1st Rovers game. I've seen too much rubbish over that time to start jumping on any bandwagon, but I've rarely felt as disappointed as I did on Friday.

I felt worse after Friday nights performance than I did after the thumping Wigan gave us at home last season. In the past it has been easy to question the players commitment, but in this instance the effort appeared to be there but they looked lost in attack and defence. It could be said that stuff simply wasn't coming off but it was worse than that, you could read our plays before they happened and that to me is down to the coach and or the 6 & 7. Somewhere along the line there is a lack of leadership, i'm just not sure if that is from the coach or whether the players in key positions don't have the conviction to dictate play on the pitch

i know you lot know more about rovers than me so i acknowledge your views are based on what your seeing every week but was'nt everyone saying these things last year and then he turned it around and everyone ( well most ) was happy hudge had kept faith in him.i personally thought you had made some really solid signings this year,especailly poore who i was hoping we would go for.only 3 games in so alot can change really quick.as it has shown at wire with losing briers and to some extent catalan been without dureau that losing dobson was always going to be the differance between winning and losing 80/90% of games

Please don't be coming on our board and talking sense, you won't fit in!

I will when we get bummed at home by cas in a run of results that has 1 in the W column and 9 in the L

We're 1 point worse off than we managed from the same fixtures last year.

Hull are 3 points worse off from the same fixtures.

Sounds like progress to me

That's general zod kind of spin

The whole point of your little dig was that we had conceded 16 tries in 3 games. As you have now done the same, you feel the need to add new parameters?
Nothing less than expected from you in reality.