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| they are e though, doesnt look good i agree but some decisions are diabolical for all teams
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| Quote: phleastyler "they are poop though, doesnt look good i agree but some decisions are diabolical for all teams'"
We had Alibert pinging Bradford for offside before he'd even called the tackle held, he then realised he gave the penalty for them holding down. We also had Matt 'Peyton Manning' Diskin up to his usual tricks and not being picked once. He also signalled offside for a high shot as well.
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| they are worse since they went proffesional
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| I'm not gonna blame the ref, if we can't tackle then we will lose, Cas had more enthusiasm than us, they deserved it, we got what we deserved, nothing.
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7063.jpg "They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.:7063.jpg |
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| Transition season this, was always going to be.
I said before the season that sneaking into the play offs is the achievable goal and I still feel that way.
The defence is a major worry in the short term, but Sandercocks mission is to make this club more sustainable by bringing through the youth and putting structures in place to enable us to have a consistent production line of talent.
Let's not forget this.
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47753_1430033772.jpg JOHN THE REDBOY I have been a rovers fan all my life and my grandkids are as well:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47753.jpg |
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "Transition season this, was always going to be.
I said before the season that sneaking into the play offs is the achievable goal and I still feel that way.
The defence is a major worry in the short term, but Sandercocks mission is to make this club more sustainable by bringing through the youth and putting structures in place to enable us to have a consistent production line of talent.
Let's not forget this.'"
I agree with you on all you have said sandra but we have now learnt how to score tries can we please learn how to defend please
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "Transition season this, was always going to be.
I said before the season that sneaking into the play offs is the achievable goal and I still feel that way.
The defence is a major worry in the short term, but Sandercocks mission is to make this club more sustainable by bringing through the youth and putting structures in place to enable us to have a consistent production line of talent.
Let's not forget this.'"
If devolping youth is playing the likes of latus and murrell in front of younger players then he's not doing his job,too many people on here who think our players are better than they really are.Also when the under 20's get beat by as many as they did last night then there is not much coming through,probably more morgan's fault than sandercock.Transition is just an excuse as other clubs have new coaches as well and they are all not struggling,our neighbours unfortunately being one of them.At the end of the day injuries should affect your cohesion in attack,but we have no problem,we just have a defence with more holes in it than a string vest and that should have been put right by now.Wrong appointment IMO.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Yeah, that clearly needs to improve.
Unfortunately, where we're weakest in defence is probably the most difficult position to defend. i.e. In the centre/second row channel.
I don't think we can underestimate how much we're missing Galea, he completely galvanises our right side. In a typically Roversesque quirk of fate, we seem to have evened this up by also forgetting how to defend down the left!
Something else I've noticed is that we've developed a stupid habit of going for big shoulder charges. This is fine if you follow up with an effective tackle, however, we're allowing people to bounce off and then either off load or make more metres. Particular offenders are Whithers and Mika.
Edit: I was talking about defence in reply to cravenpark1.
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| I couldn't go last night so can't really comment on the game but I was very wary of Cas before the game.
I will say that the individual improvement of players has been pretty awesome and in turn the potential of the squad has improved massively IMO which is no real surprise to me because of CS's track record in Aus.
However, he's still a rookie as a first team coach in terms of setting game plans etc. but smashing the top of the table one week and then losing to the bottom of the table team the next means the erratic nature of our performances seems to have continued on from previous seasons.
Hopefully CS will be able to narrow the gap between our good and bad performances and we'll move up the table.
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| Quote: chas1hkr "If devolping youth is playing the likes of latus and murrell in front of younger players then he's not doing his job,too many people on here who think our players are better than they really are.Also when the under 20's get beat by as many as they did last night then there is not much coming through,probably more morgan's fault than sandercock.Transition is just an excuse as other clubs have new coaches as well and they are all not struggling,our neighbours unfortunately being one of them.At the end of the day injuries should affect your cohesion in attack,but we have no problem,we just have a defence with more holes in it than a string vest and that should have been put right by now.Wrong appointment IMO.'"
I thought Murrell had a good game at 6 for us last night, as he did against Huddersfield last week. Fair enough if we have a Lomax or Gaskill in the 20's play them, but to the best of my knowledge we don't.
I noticed in an earlier post Murrell was one of the players listed to go at the end of the season, I would suggest that his utility value alone would make him well worth retaining.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: chas1hkr "If devolping youth is playing the likes of latus and murrell in front of younger players then he's not doing his job,too many people on here who think our players are better than they really are.Also when the under 20's get beat by as many as they did last night then there is not much coming through,probably more morgan's fault than sandercock.Transition is just an excuse as other clubs have new coaches as well and they are all not struggling,our neighbours unfortunately being one of them.At the end of the day injuries should affect your cohesion in attack,but we have no problem,we just have a defence with more holes in it than a string vest and that should have been put right by now.Wrong appointment IMO.'"
You're entitled to your opinion but I think you're over reacting.
Youth results aren't particularly important, it's whether we get a through put to the first team that's important. Now, let's also understand that a good hit rate is probably only about one player coming through every other season and our academy is only just past the fledgling stage.
Transition isn't an excuse, it's where we are.
We need and should give Sandercock until at least the middle of next season, no club ever succeeds by changing the coach every six months.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Another point about youth is bringing them through in the correct way, let's play them all, see them get smashed and then ruined for the rest of their careers, that'll work!
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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Think I said in the predictions it could be a 4 point swing either way. A couple of big moments in the game. When at 28-22 up, you went for goal with still 20 minutes to go. Whereas you were breaking through our defence at will. I think you only got down our end once after that. In contrast, with 13 minutes to go, 2 points down, we opted not to kick to tie the game. He who dares....
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