Would have been a winner if only you'd picked the right scene. Still.............



Always look on the bright side of life.

You can have a stadium that costs more and is more superior to the KC as far as I'm concerned.

1 penny of my council tax money goes into it tho and I'll see that the local authority are taken to the cleaners by the press and the Government.

This would also be the case of the same happened to money from the authority invested in the KC.

BTW no sourness here mate, think you'll find the only sour people are each and everyone who signed a pathetic petition

Why not get each of your fans to donate £1 each, you'll have about £8 million then wouldn't you according to some in here saying how many fans you have

I'm sometimes guilty of laughing at my own jokes too.

Those are jokes.......right?

As a council tax payer in Hedon,how much of your ERYCC tax would be put towards the facilities that you are asking for?
East Hull has had the lions share of any centrally funded money for years,Prescott saw to that.Now you are asking the council to help fund a business that struggles from one year to the next.
As far as I am concerned,if HCC decides to bail you lot out again, then that means they have far to much cash spare and I for one will be asking why the bills are so high when they can make dodgy investments in a private company that is not run that competently.

Which ever way you look at it FC and City as clubs have gained massively from the King Comms share boom bonanza….. sale, and the KC is great, it’s brought high profile music events and Premiership football (arguably) to Hull.
Rovers did not benefit massively from it, and before it’s mentioned again, HKR playing at the KC was never going to happen.

The fans of Rovers aren't asking for a mini KC, it’s a helping hand in providing better facilities that to be honest FC fans complain more than anyone we haven’t currently got!!

As for the highlighted points in your post, do you even remember the Gateshead merger and why it came about?!! FC hardly got to where they are today completely on their own merit.

Have you even read Jake The Peg's post? Rovers have had plenty of public funding in the same way that Hull Stingrays did. If the council paid for stadium extensions and crowds did not materially increase, the investment would represent very poor value for money. Remember how much passes are going to cost for 2012 and the current gloomy environment and it's fair to say that materially and consistently increasing crowds by more than 20% is very challenging.

How much money do we estimate Rovers have received from the public purse in effective subsidy over the last 25-30 years? Gordon Gekko mentioned hundreds of thousands of pounds. Not to be sniffed at, but still two orders of magnitude (sorry, I'm scientist - I say 'decant' instead of 'pour', on occasion as well) less than the £40 m spent on the KC (for FC and City - and as I'm not engaged in advocacy potentially Hull KR). The issue isn't so much how often help has been handed out, but how much.

The aquaduct?

Or, the point is that Rovers can't fulfil the commitments they made 2 years ago and are now trying to leverage the fact that the council used a windfall to build a stadium in the city to get them to fund another one. Despite the fact that Rovers wanted to go it alone when offered a place at said stadium. And that the council have funded the Stingrays, a company that was loss-making with an non self-sufficient business model and that now looks a poor commercial decision.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, the offer of playing in West Hull would have been the last nail in the coffin for Rovers in 2002/03. We might as well have ground-shared with York, it would have been more palatable to the faithful then.

If the KC had been built on Holderness Road, would FC have taken up an offer to play there?

Is the third one along Rich Agar thinking of a gameplan ?.

Could you point me in the direction of where Hull Kingston Rovers have made any petitions to Hull City Council for stadium funding within the last month. I was under the impression that it was a recently formed independant fans group that had organised this.



The relevance of a team engaging in a different sport several years ago is relevant how?

Awaits incredably convoluted arguement constructed with jealousy inducing statistics...

Pathetic question.

Where on Holderness road would this stadium be? And if not there where exactly did all these gimps signing the petition want the KC to be built to be more central and close to transport links in order to please the Red and Whites?
Kingswood? Miles from Stations, Motorways and most of the estates in Hull.
Sutton Fields? See above.
Hedon Road? Miles away from the Station and too far away from most of the estates in Hull.

Why cant these dumb feckers see that unless you want to put it in the River Hull the stadium is as central as it could be, as well as being a 5 minute walk from the train and bus station and with excellent access to the A63.

Do you really think the Council had it in for all 500 Rovers fans when they built the stadium?

The RFL have made facilities an important criterion in licensing, so clubs who have not yet secured public investment or cannot provide funding of their own (RL is not a wealthy sport after all), need to look at ways of doing so. It is the same for Wakefield, Salford, Cas and, before it went down the pan, Bradford. Rovers response has been rational, and while the aim of new stadium seems unrealistic, using the precedent of the KC is an obvious piece of advocacy to push the case for some sort of support.
I don't know about anything about the Stingrays, so I'm not sure how pertinent that is. If the local authority wants (ie it makes political sense) to have two K-u-Hull clubs in SL long-term, they need to either support improvements at CP (which I think they will), or everybody has to accept Rovers at the KC - which seems deeply unpalatable to a majority of both Hull and Rovers fans. Are there any stadiums that host 3 senior clubs regularly? I can't think of any in the UK.

I wouldn't have any problem with the council upgrading CP providing it represents value to the taxpayer. The KC was built from one off funds and wasn't built purely for Hull City and Hull FC but the wider community. If HCC are to fund any stadia improvements then imho the land and buildings must be wholly owned by HCC and the whole facility must be run by an independant management committee along the same lines as the SMC with the remit of getting VFM for the ratepayers of Hull.

On top of this the work must be carried out by local contractors and materials must be supplied by local companies in order to assist the local economy.