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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Seems to me that the nudger believes that improved facilities would see a 25% increase in the support base and is pinning the existence of teh club on this assumption. Is there any evidence to suggest this is likely? Have the dobbins ever averaged over 10k before? (genuine question, I don't know). You've already seen a 500%+ increase in your average gates in the last 5 years so are there really any rovers fans who don't go to games when teh club are their most successful in over 20 years? Whilst Hull have seen an increase since the move to the KC, the biggest rise has been since rovers were promoted, and crowds now are only where tehy were at teh Boulevard in the early 80's. Although crowds are generally up in SL, I don't think any club is averaging more than they have at times in the past'"
He wants to get to 10,000 - this is only 17% more than current.
5 years ago the average was 2,400 (2004 season under Reilly/Hall), so our current average is 355% up, not the 500 quoted.
Hull's last 3 years have been the largest 3 in their history.
All this proves that you cannot use history (including the 80's) to gauge future potential.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "one of her weakest, most one-eyed posts ever'"
I'm disappointed - I've come to expect so much better.
Business plan! When do the council expect to have recouped the £44 million they laid out for the KC? The clue I suspect is in it being called a 'community' stadium.
As I say, I'm not a fan of professional sports clubs receiving public subsidy, but for a fan of a club who have benefitted from it on a fairly spectacular scale to come over all holier than thou and start employing business criteria to other putative projects is a bit hard to swallow.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista ""Hudgell says he took the decision to publicly talk about KR's financial plight in a bid to highlight the need to develop Craven Park"
Nowt to do with Look North's feature, then?
Why did the rate payers of hull have to fund 700 K of their monies to HFC for the Boulevard ? Now you are moving back the rate payers should be getting some of thier monies back
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "That is the crux, to survive in top flight it has to be viewed as a business in order to survive, he may be great for the fans mixing in the east stand, on occasions passing remarks about his rivals (fc), kr fans love all this, nice and cosy..however he is losing half a million a year!! would you not sooner have more financial stability some-one who has no interest in us and is only focused on your club,or are you happy Hudge who loves to get one over his rivals and imo overspends in his quest to do this, Cooke, Dobson'"
Why don't you worry about the mighty Hull Super League who have similar debts that are owed to the Directors in loans !
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| Quote: cofr_rockin_robin "Why did the rate payers of hull have to fund 700 K of their monies to HFC for the Boulevard ? Now you are moving back the rate payers should be getting some of thier monies back'"
I may be wrong but didn't they pay 900k?
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| no good asking any of the cabbages, there's some severe alzheimer cases going on in the west, they can't seem to remember anything pre KC!
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I'm disappointed - I've come to expect so much better.
Business plan! When do the council expect to have recouped the £44 million they laid out for the KC? The clue I suspect is in it being called a 'community' stadium.
As I say, I'm not a fan of professional sports clubs receiving public subsidy, but for a fan of a club who have benefitted from it on a fairly spectacular scale to come over all holier than thou and start employing business criteria to other putative projects is a bit hard to swallow.'"
Ooh, hark at her!
Councils are strapped for cash. As stated, if there is such a proven need for community facilities in East Hull I'm sure it will already be high up the council's priority list, so let them appraise potential locations against a set of community, accessibility and and financial criteria.
Still, you side-stepped Hudgell's image rights "rationale" quite neatly there.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Ooh, hark at her!
it was indeed, but if it was down to the majority of the population in hull, the public money would have gone elsewhere, not just to the 50,000 sports fans.
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| The name of the KC has nack all to do with the revenue used to build it. Kingston Comms have a 10 year sponsorship deal with it. The windfall was taxpayers money which the council chose to squander on all manner of dumb projects - you should see the cash wasted on council house gates/fences etc around parts of the city.
Rovers turned down the chance to play there for 1 reason only - location. Had it been built centrally it would have been a worthwhile consideration.
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| Quote: Vicenzo "Nothing. I was pointing out that however you dress it up it is a debt and has to be paid back. As you so rightly point out they are getting interest on their loans.'"
Debt doesn't have to be paid back, just ask the former creditors of hull kr who had to accept a CVA not so long back.
The interest rate on directors loans is capped I believe at a much lower rate than current bank rate would likely be, plus is there any evidence that the Hull FC shareholders are charging interest on their loans?
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| Quote: Chris1953 "Maybe if your club had shaken off their small club mentality when the kc was offered to them they wouldn't be having to beg and scrape for a smaller version of the kc as fudge wants now!!
Good times for rugby league in the city at tho moment!!'"
You enjoy it like my avatar says
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Debt doesn't have to be paid back, just ask the former creditors of hull kr who had to accept a CVA not so long back.
The interest rate on directors loans is capped I believe at a much lower rate than current bank rate would likely be, plus is there any evidence that the Hull FC shareholders are charging interest on their loans?'"
Ask the shareholders of Hull FC how much they got back at the time of the "merger" It was precisely zero! The directors have been paid interest at 2% above base rate,,,,, so far![/code]
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| Quote: Mrs Barista ""Hudgell says he took the decision to publicly talk about KR's financial plight in a bid to highlight the need to develop Craven Park"
Nowt to do with Look North's feature, then?
I don't have the time, effort or energy to pull your pathetic post to bits.
Have a day off from talking out your @rse.
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