We'll see if he is up to it if he is selected against the Aussies and Kiwis who will put him under considerable pressure defensively, i suspect he is not the greatest when it comes to ball retention and positioning.

I'd deffo pick carvell on the bench with morley, I think they have been the stand out props all year really and you only have to look at Warrington's games, when they've been subbed it's like turning off a switch they've had the best go forward all year.

personally my bench would be those 2, roby and burgess, burgess has played a lot of the back end of the season off the bench for Bratfud and can pack down anywhere apart from hooker (though he'd probably have a good go!). I'd consider jon wilkin instead of westwood to partner ellis due to his versatility and either of the 2nd rows could fill in in the backs during a game if injuries occur.

As I said earlier I don't think the pack is going to be the problem and with rotation props of peacock, graham, morley and carvell, with burgess thrown in no one will push us around, but all the backs barring shaun briscoe worry me when we come to play the big 2

Anyway....

What do you reckon the England 17 will be on Friday against France? Any surprises?

Tomkins or McGuire at 6? Think Tompkins should be involved but him and Myler at half back seems a tad too inexperienced for the Oz and Kiwis.

Why not play Tomkins at 6 and Mcguire at 7?

Smith may well do that with Sinfield at 13.

Wouldnt be a bad option imo.

2 Briscoes in, 1 Fox out for France game ....


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How the hell can Smith have Myler in instead of Thompkins? Oh yes it's because he's biased!

i dont myler ahead of tomkins either and only 1 prop on the bench, woyld have started roby and made eastmond do a short stint at hooker. Not suprised fox hasnt made it tho!

Think about who just paid big money to sign Myler and i think you have may have your answer as to why he has been picked

Fox was very ordinary on Friday and didn't deserve to be picked, that said he would probably have been playing had O'Loughlin not had to pull out. Welcome to the strange world of Tony Smiff

Can see us getting turned over by the french, They will be pretty strong and very used to each other especially with the likes of Greenshieds being added.

Westwood should be no where near the squad, think he's had a poor year. Surprised at the omission of Carvell, maybe saving him for the bigger test the week after, are we taking hte french too lightly.