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Quote: CHURCHILL "I'm not defending racism, and I don't believe a racist comment has been made on this thread, and I also don't think people have a full understanding of what racism is.

As for your daughter, it's wrong she should suffer it, if it is true racism, of which I don't know as I don't know the full details.'"


Not going to much into it but she has dark skin and has suffered since starting school, only kids but they can be the worse.

Perhaps you can explain the difference between 'English' bar staff and non English...difference is their Nationality.
That sir, is racism.

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Quote: Stan Butler "WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"



To make it a true multi-cultural bar, odd having a bar in england with no english people working there, I hate feeling like an ethnic minority. icon_cry.gif

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Quote: CHURCHILL "To make it a true multi-cultural bar, odd having a bar in england with no english people working there, I hate feeling like an ethnic minority.
Why is it odd??

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Quote: Stan Butler "Not going to much into it but she has dark skin and has suffered since starting school, only kids but they can be the worse.

Perhaps you can explain the difference between 'English' bar staff and non English...difference is their Nationality.
That sir, is racism.'"


I don't, and didn't expect you to put anything on here about your daughter and the abuse she has to go through.

Being english or non english is just a fact isn't it? It's people like you that dig away looking for any chance to raise the race card for the slightest thing, sadly it's people like you that unwittingly create some of the problems between different races, strange as that sounds.

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Quote: Stan Butler "Why is it odd??'"


Well the last time I checked the map of the world, it had a country called Great Britain on it, that was split into four different home countries, one of them being england, of which has a population of 51 million people, most of them born in england and looking for work, I would like to think english people can work alongside anyone from any country, but it seems that the bars at the KC don't cater for such a situation at present, let's hope this changes and english people have equal opportunity to have such chances in the employment market.

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Quote: CHURCHILL "Well the last time I checked the map of the world, it had a country called Great Britain on it, that was split into four different home countries, one of them being england, of which has a population of 51 million people, most of them born in england and looking for work, I would like to think english people can work alongside anyone from any country, but it seems that the bars at the KC don't cater for such a situation at present, let's hope this changes and english people have equal opportunity to have such chances in the employment market.'"


So you are now saying the SMC aren't giving equal opportunities?

Nothing to stop ANYBODY applying for a job there, and if they fit the bill they will get the job.

There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.

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Quote: Stan Butler "WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"


Charlie??

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Quote: GraftonRed "For those who have not noticed....the bulls are hitting a bit of form.

you can get 200/1 on quins to win the final(who are 10th), i believe brad can sneek the playoffs on 25 points at the expense of catalan, i will elaborate my theory later. I need to get my bet on, just incase the mighty hull kr slip up
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Quote: Stan Butler "

There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.'"


So why feel the need to tell me then? (I'm kidding) Look Stan, we can go round the houses on this one time and again, fact is if your daughter gets abuse for having dark skin, that is out of order, and if I were passing in the street and saw or heard it, I would be the first to help out because I would be as disgusted as you.

Where we do differ though is what racism is and to what point does it end. Charlie suggesting that foreign workers struggle to comprehend what he is saying, and struggle to work out the currency as change, isn't racism, no matter what angle it's looked at from.

A clip of Clive Sullivan playing for Rovers against Hull FC in the Floodlit Cup is on Hull FC TV, a player well respected on both sides of the river and even now rightly respected throughout the sporting world for being the first black man to captain his country and such like.

www.hullfc.com/hullfctv/classics.php

Sadly in the clip, at 4.40 mins in the clip if you wish to check it out, he runs towards the 3d stand, to be met with people making monkey noises, to a player they chanted the name of only a year or so before.

Moving on thirty years, attitudes have changed for the better, people are more educated and no where near as vile as they used to be towards anyone with a different culture or coloured skin, but still a few are still amongst the population, but Charlie ISN'T one of them.
Quote: Stan Butler "

There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.'"


So why feel the need to tell me then? (I'm kidding) Look Stan, we can go round the houses on this one time and again, fact is if your daughter gets abuse for having dark skin, that is out of order, and if I were passing in the street and saw or heard it, I would be the first to help out because I would be as disgusted as you.

Where we do differ though is what racism is and to what point does it end. Charlie suggesting that foreign workers struggle to comprehend what he is saying, and struggle to work out the currency as change, isn't racism, no matter what angle it's looked at from.

A clip of Clive Sullivan playing for Rovers against Hull FC in the Floodlit Cup is on Hull FC TV, a player well respected on both sides of the river and even now rightly respected throughout the sporting world for being the first black man to captain his country and such like.

www.hullfc.com/hullfctv/classics.php

Sadly in the clip, at 4.40 mins in the clip if you wish to check it out, he runs towards the 3d stand, to be met with people making monkey noises, to a player they chanted the name of only a year or so before.

Moving on thirty years, attitudes have changed for the better, people are more educated and no where near as vile as they used to be towards anyone with a different culture or coloured skin, but still a few are still amongst the population, but Charlie ISN'T one of them.


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Quote: Stan Butler "WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"


The worlds gone mad, people have been brainwashed......is there an "ism" for someone who genuinely hates opposing teams fans. Some people are for positive descrimination, does the word possitive make it any better? Before you start waving the race card at me, get yourself in my local, just about every nationality goes in at some time and i have mates of all colours and creeds, hell some are even hull fans icon_eek.gif People nowadays are getting racism and concern about the over influx of assylum seekers, corcern about imigrants being used as cheap labour, and knowing this small country can't cope with this massive influx, mixed up, this is creating a percieved racist culture.

CC comment was tong in cheek, take it as it was meant and stop trying to create something out of nothing.

I am genuinely saddened to hear about your daughter, and it must be really upsetting for you and your family aswell.

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why are Rovers fans bothered what nationality the SMC employ to staff the KC's bars? were you all planning on coming down for a pint or a hotdog or something?

you've just made the SL playoffs for the first time ever, is there honestly nothing better for you all to talk about??

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Quote: UllFC "why are Rovers fans bothered what nationality the SMC employ to staff the KC's bars? were you all planning on coming down for a pint or a hotdog or something?

you've just made the SL playoffs for the first time ever, is there honestly nothing better for you all to talk about??'"


Stan Butler started it. icon_lol.gif

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Also Stan in your PM's you mention your daughter been treated harshly, however you post this to GMLStan Butler wrote [iI don't have to, you do that yourself by simply breathing....a total insult to society[/i

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