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| Quote: fc-eaststander "Its very difficult to read much into one game, but Sandycock said on radio that David H has picked up a 6 to 8 week injury, he seemed to blame your outside backs for the defeat so this gives less room for change, TBH welham has been a turnstile for a few seasons now good attacker but defence is very poor tough run of 5 games coming up'"
I thought Sandercock's interview was its usual bordering on bad-tempered effort post-defeat but he certainly didn't defend his own back line did he ?
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| first half we sucked Leeds up the middle and did a job on them, second half they played with a lot of width and we were You could have chosen plenty of words that didn't involve avoiding the swear filter-AS. end of
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| Let me attempt to straighten this out. Gwylulm Lloyd hasn't got a clue what he is talking about, we all know that. Our pack overall did well. Costigan, Weyman and Poore are not fit enough yet and were quiet. Weyman I thought was the best of the three. Langley and Larroyer were solid and played big minutes without being spectacular. Green had a good game with some good off-loads and both Walkers were good if a little rusty. I don't think Hodgson playing nearly 80 paid off. But Sandercock is correct in saying our pack matched theirs. The problem was and is that you need to offer a bit more than a strong pack. Usual errors from Eden (error gave them first try and dropped the ball later that led to another try). Welham still jumping out of line and missing (cost a further 2 tries). Keating was anonymous and created nothing which is a concern but way too early to judge - just an observation from today. Burns was playing his first match so was way off the pace but will improve. Leeds have great backs and better half backs than us any day of the week and that was the major difference. However, not panicking after that. It is going to take weeks for the team to settle and fans are going to have to be patient. In hindsight Hall should have maybe played 6 but then how does Burns get match fitness? We'll be much better 3/4 games in.
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| Your pack is strong and aggressive, but has no speed or skill. Halfbacks little creatuvity and poor defence out wide, eden made a few silly errors.
As soon as leeds sorted out their discipline and improved their passing they took total control.
On the plus side though james green was outstanding, apart from peacock I though he was the best forward on the pitch.
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| James Green looks an excellent forward from what I've seen. Apparently the radio had Leeds completion at 50odd % and Rovers at 60odd % at half time. Once Leeds sorted that out it seems they prevailed.
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| We'll that was disappointing. I had allowed myself to get dragged along with the pre season feel good factor slightly & although didn't really expect a win, I did think we would put up more of a fight.
I thought we competed for maybe 45/50 minutes & then the wheels seemed to fall off.
I'm surprised Leeds didn't target Welham & Charlie during the first half tbh, it was always going to be our weak link.
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| Briscoe won't score an easier hat trick
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| Quote: Broadhurst's Fist "Let me attempt to straighten this out. Gwylulm Lloyd hasn't got a clue what he is talking about, we all know that. Our pack overall did well. Costigan, Weyman and Poore are not fit enough yet and were quiet. Weyman I thought was the best of the three. Langley and Larroyer were solid and played big minutes without being spectacular. Green had a good game with some good off-loads and both Walkers were good if a little rusty. I don't think Hodgson playing nearly 80 paid off. But Sandercock is correct in saying our pack matched theirs. The problem was and is that you need to offer a bit more than a strong pack. Usual errors from Eden (error gave them first try and dropped the ball later that led to another try). Welham still jumping out of line and missing (cost a further 2 tries). Keating was anonymous and created nothing which is a concern but way too early to judge - just an observation from today. Burns was playing his first match so was way off the pace but will improve. Leeds have great backs and better half backs than us any day of the week and that was the major difference. However, not panicking after that. It is going to take weeks for the team to settle and fans are going to have to be patient. In hindsight Hall should have maybe played 6 but then how does Burns get match fitness? We'll be much better 3/4 games in.'"
Agree with most of what you say,but it shows how we all see things differently,I thought keating was close to being our best player.
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| Think rovers pack was good but tired easy. Costigan and weyman need to improve there fitness levels after 10 mind there was both blowing. Welham was shocking flying out the line in defence and not making the tackle. Playing with no sub hooker was a big mistake as the game went on a Josh tired the was no structure
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I thought Sandercock's interview was its usual bordering on bad-tempered effort post-defeat but he certainly didn't defend his own back line did he ?
TBh he's embarrassing he repeated out side backs 4 times almost taking the out of the interviewer and offered no other reason for the defeat I honestly do not know why Humberside bother to interview him after a defeat, looking at KR next 5 games I would stay off air for a few weeks if I was him FFs
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| Quote: WIZEB "A good dicking at home to start the season off.
What you do at home is your own business, no need to broadcast it on here.
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| Just got back. Great effort by the club for the pre match entertainment.
Good 1st half.
Pants in the 2nd half. Looked weak in defence on the fringes.
North stand ok, hudge was correct about not enough loo's! Our seats are bang next to the away section, a teenage Leeds fan jeering at us every time they scored, looking directly to us and not even at the try his team were in the process of scoring. Some people I know who go to the games would have knocked the teeth clean from his head. Result, I'm fooking moving, maybe back to east stand!
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| Seems like a similar sort of game to week 1 last season when we played Leeds. I wouldn't worry too much, we had a decent season in the end and there's no reason you can't have one.
When you played us a few weeks ago two things struck me about your team. 1; the forwards looked unfit, and 2; there is no real pace in the team.
The first of those I put down to it being the first hit out and assumed they would improve. They still will improve but it would appear that was also a factor today and maybe you would have benefited from one more friendly. You don't ship 6 second half tries just because Whelam has jumped out of the line, the forwards must be struggling for a team to run away like that.
The second one I think will ultimately stop you from making the jump from 8th to the top 6. There is no substitute for pace. Today for example the Leeds players were quicker than their opposite number from 1 to 7. You can get by without having speed if you are well drilled, but it's that half yard of pace that turns a half chance into a try. Eden aside I don't see anyone who can show a clean pair of heels when they get put in space.
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| Quote: red al "Just got back. Great effort by the club for the pre match entertainment.
Good 1st half.
Pants in the 2nd half. Looked weak in defence on the fringes.
North stand ok, hudge was correct about not enough loo's! Our seats are bang next to the away section, a teenage Leeds fan jeering at us every time they scored, looking directly to us and not even at the try his team were in the process of scoring. Some people I know who go to the games would have knocked the teeth clean from his head. Result, I'm fooking moving, maybe back to east stand!'" so you wouldn't gloat at an opposition fan if you were sat close to him? Hmmm
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| Quote: stonesy "so you wouldn't gloat at an opposition fan if you were sat close to him? Hmmm'" Although I can't speak for red al I can say without any fear of contradiction that I wouldn't no.
You see all that happens is that they get upset and you look a twit.
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