Hull won't get relegated this year Dave. There is just about enough latent talent in the Hull FC players for them to avoid relegation playing on autopilot so i'm sure they won't be down there.

That being said I can't see Hull challenging for titles this year and I can see a very large change of playing staff for next season at the KC.

i dont think anyone expected we would...we are several players short of a SL title bid.

this years now going to be a transitional one..and im hoping the new coach clears out the deadwood and gets us in a great position for 2007. Id be happy just with a playoff spot for this year (only for the extra money to buy players with really)

Who would you class as deadwood in the Hull FC squad?

King becuase he hasnt improved for over a year, and his off the feild 'behaviour' is well discussed.

id also say that Lupton should go, becuase he isnt used...not a bad player..but a waste of 20/20 if we arnt going to play him

again Motu Tony is a good player, but if we are going to waste his career playing him in any position, theres no point him being here.

Higgins is young, but when asked to play SL hasnt impressed

Blacklocks retiring anyway

Carvell might want to leave aparantly, but personally id try and get him to stay.


Then with the rest it mainly depends on who we can bring in to replace them, theres several 'average' players that are ok, but if we could attract some top class id release. Our main priority has to be a top class half-back, and i would release several to make that happen. We also need a winger or two.

But thats the point isnt it although you and the sensible one's might not have thought so the deluded trolls dont agree!!

And what does that make you then? The fact is the balance of power has not shifted at all.For as bad as things have been over the last few weeks,it's still a far better situation that what's at Caravan Park. You still support an inferior rugby team in an inferior stadium. You're still in a league that most super league supporters don't take an interest in. They regard the team who comes up as 4 or 6pts a season.I only take a look at your results to see if you've lost.You're not in superleague end of! You've no guarantees of getting there this season, even though, this is probably the best team you've had for achieving it.

If franchising does come in as is expected before you've achieved promotion. you're definitely up the creek without a paddle. And the theory most likely, if franchising does come in and you have been promoted beforehand, is you will be discarded then.

The only superleague team in crisis at the moment is Wigan, who have serious problems.

The simple fact is you're still in the little leagues looking up enviously at the big boys. Jog on

I take it that's a long winded way of saying your guess.

The simple fact is you're still in the little leagues looking up enviously at the big boys. Jog on'"

Thanks for that World of Rentboy

such a well reasoned and thought out reply gavin,well done.

ok 6 months has gone
HKR are now in the super league
we have massive investments
we have the best playing surface in rugby league in this country
now Besty who was right and and who was wrong


i have a nice slice of humble pie nice and warm ready for you