Hopefully we will Finish top 6, as for rovers top 8 . I know one thing can't wait for new season

Wigan
Saints
Leeds
Huddersfield (the usual suspects up top, Leeds could be an interesting one without KS and JP though)
Catalans
Hull fc
Castleford
Warrington (les Cats and Hull both recruited well and could/should improve, Warrington look like they may have a transition in them IMO)
Hull KR
Widnes
Salford
Wakefield (as you were at the bottom. No team strengthened enough to challenge IMO)

1 wigan
2 leeds
3 saints
4 cats
5 huddersfield
6 hull
7 warrington
8 rovers
9 salford
10 castleford
11 widnes
12 wakey.

Catalans for the cup.

It's a little boring isn't it?

We're about eight weeks from the start of the season and it all looks pretty predictable.

I think almost all of the permutations of predictions that the posters have posted are possible.

As an aside, I'm loving that sentence.

We're going to finish about eighth or ninth, shake up some teams at CP and get ed on the road. I'll be stupid enough to go to the majority of those games and spend my Sunday evenings in a foul mood.

Can't see us anywhere outside 7-9. Hope I'm wrong but our pack just doesn't have the quality in it.

You're right about where we will finish. 6 would be an outstanding achievement, but 7-9 more likely.

However, I am going to stick my neck out, possibly incur some forum disagreement but hopefully kick-start some debate by saying you're wrong about our pack lacking quality.

Here's my take on our forward squad.

Lunt - quality; Johnny le Pocket Rocket - quality; Walker - quality; Allgood - quality; Green - potential for quality; Tilse - quality in fleeting glimpses; Blair - quality; Clarkson - used to be quality a few years ago at Leeds and likely to be so again at Rovers; Larroyer - flakey quality, poor last year; Horne - average; Lawler, Greenwood and Mulhern - great potential and better quality replacements all 3; Donaldson - too small for LF and needs to convert to hooker; Holker - dunno. We need another quality second rower, similar to Carl Ablett.

IMO Rovers pack needs far more respect than some are giving it for 2016. Allgood for starters and Tilse are better players than we saw last season - top NRL performers who will be better in 2016. In doing so it will allow the back row to be more effective as opposed to being secondary line of defence. The burden on the back row cannot be dismissed in particular the impact of MacD, Horner and Larroyer who stood their ground.

Clarkson is an astute signing who will surprise many with his work ethic and will get amongst the try scorers, something we have missed since the departure of Benny G. If anything, again, it will be Rovers third line defence that will decide where they finish in the table - is THornely better than Welham, I am not so sure?

Who's MacD?

Donaldson

Not MacD then?

He only has to be on the pitch to be better than Welham.

Minns will be the emerging star from this year's newbies, you heard it here 1st.

My Rhino mates and neighbours up here really rate Minns and by all accounts he had a stellar season last year for Fev. He likes to take on the line whenever he can. Defensively sound too. You're right. He will be an emerging star and ever present at centre for us if he stays fit.

I've seen Clarkson play 4 or 5 times for Leeds in SL and he has always impressed me. He used to be quick and had a cracking sidestep and fend on him. I can't understand why we aren't getting more enthusiastic about him on here. He's my tip (just ahead of Minns) to be next year's best newbie for us.

I'm getting a bit worried. Positive comments about our pack and new signings. Am I on the right forum?