Yes it is. It's terrible. You're fairly tall so have an advantage over us shorts, being smaller makes it even worse. Defending it makes you look unreasonable and I know you're not. You can't see the match from there, end of.

No agenda. I haven't missed a SL NCP derby, but I've only ever paid money to stand in the south 'stand' once, and I never would again. You know I was fond of the golf stand and encouraged Hull fans to go in there. Now it's gone looks like I'll be joining you in the East stand. We can wave across at dum-dum.

I'm fed up of all the whining Hull fans who refuse to come to Craven Park. I'm at the point now where I can't be bothered and I'm going to miss my first derby and watch it on the telly.

Easty, Easty, Easty. Who's whining and groaning on this thread about refusing to come to CP? I've already confirmed I go every time.

The thread has seen a few Rovers fans moaning about whether to come to the KC, though.

I and many other FC fans have often been chided for our consistent avoidance of Craven Park. Odd that Rovers fans' new-found huffiness about attending the Kc, having previously claimed they would attend no matter what to support their team, coincides with us being 4 points clear with a game in hand. I'm sure these factors are not related and as we go into the derby level on points their appetite will return to its normal levels.

Hull FC opening fixtures.

Warrington (H)
Catalan (A) Postponed
London (H)
Salford (A)
Wakefield (H)
Saints (A)
Widnes(H)
Castleford (A)

Rovers
Leeds (A)
Wakefield (A)
Saints (H)
Widnes (H)
Warrington (A)
Bradford (H)
Catalan (A)
Shudds (H)

After this weekend we'd have played 4 of the top 5. Hull would have played only Warrington and that was at home for the 1st game of the season. I know which fixtures I'd have choosen given half a chance.

Ooh, go on then, and tell us why.

Surely the quote of my post you've made says it all. Doh!!

You don't think it is obvious?

I think we're agreeing. I've implied that both teams are misplaced and of course Mike Smith's prediction is well-documented, so not at all surprised you are so confident. Smashing. Galea back forthe derby too, I hear. Good times at the MS3CP.

Mrs B, quoting Mike Smiths pre-season aspirations and passing them off as gospel is becoming a little tiresome. You have to remember, Mike (despite being CEO) is our equivalent of lucytheconverted, and I wouldn't hold your club to account for any of her innane ramblings.

Does that make him pugwash pal? Makes sense.

Are you coming to the derby, Stanley? You should be confident; as your song goes, you're indestructible, always believe in, because you are Gold. The Kemps or the Hornes , which are the best of each set of brothers? Good derby debate now we're only 2 weeks off. Richard and Martin IMO.

Tickets already bagged.

Quite pleased with the Saturday morning start to their release. turned up at the ground at about 10 oclock, only waited about 10 minutes all done and dusted. So much better than some of the past, mid week early morning queues I've had the pleasure of.

Living out of town, I have staff to endure that pleasure.