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| Quote: Roverswall "But that still doesn't mean you can post whatever you want the AUP still stands'"
Getting jittery mate?
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| Quote: barton baird "Getting jittery mate?
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
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That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Ok. The scenario is that Willie will be impotent on the sidelines unless he is re-registered or goes to Toulon (for hopefully a decent transfer fee to make it all worthwhile).
I understand that Toulon need the good old Tongan passport for this to be worthwhile otherwise they'll use a valuable quota place that they can't afford. Still over to you then, Hudge, to make it happen?
Or, once he get's the passport ('cos that's still clearly paramount for either situation, KR or Toulon) - would it still be worth keeping him even if it means de-registering another?
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| Quote: WormInHand "Ok. The scenario is that Willie will be impotent on the sidelines unless he is re-registered or goes to Toulon (for hopefully a decent transfer fee to make it all worthwhile).
I understand that Toulon need the good old Tongan passport for this to be worthwhile otherwise they'll use a valuable quota place that they can't afford. Still over to you then, Hudge, to make it happen?
Or, once he get's the passport ('cos that's still clearly paramount for either situation, KR or Toulon) - would it still be worth keeping him even if it means de-registering another?'" If is passport arrives we wont need to de-register another.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Exactly.'"
You were not even bothered about rovers then though mate. And you know it.
I think this, Rovers are "guilty" of bending rules to suit themselves, but have been caught well short. The RFl needs to sort out some better rules, and also the visa application / acceptance process needs to be resolved.
We look more like a joke sport otherwise.
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| Quote: barton baird "Doesn`t alter the fact he has jerked you around though.Proves a contract is worth sweet f.a.'"
Depends also whether the contract may have been breached in any way.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Roverswall "If is passport arrives we wont need to de-register another.'"
Yep, sorry.
So see second paragraph. Over to Hudge.
And if the passport arrives, would you keep him, now?
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| Quote: WormInHand "See second paragraph. Over to Hudge.
If the passport arrives, would you keep him, now?'" I was commening on your 3rd paragraph mate.
And yes I would.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
[/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg |
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| Quote: Roverswall "As was commening on your 3rd paragraph mate.
And yes I would.'"
Really? With the bad luck he's brought, and his obvious desire to be elsewhere already?
By the way, what's Rovers' view on him courting another club whilst under contract to you - naughty boy. Illegal under RFL law - will Hudge let it go? (See, I've not mentioned Cooke once. )
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| Quote: WormInHand "Really? With the bad luck he's brought, and his obvious desire to be elsewhere already?
By the way, what's Rovers view on him courting another club whilst under contract to you - naughty boy. Illegal under RFL law - will Hudge let it go? (See, I've not mentioned Cooke, once
Even our local gutter press are struggling to get concrete dirt on the subject (all the statements I have seen have been rather 'blah').
As for RFL rules i'm not sure him talking to a RFU club is included although I could be wrong.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
[/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg |
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| Quote: Roverswall "Last time I checked it was all speculation and rumour (Although some will claim that they know from sauces but can't divilge) i'm not asying it isn't true BTW but still.
Even our local gutter press are struggling to get concrete dirt on the subject (all the statements I have seen have been rather 'blah').
As for RFL rules i'm not sure him talking to a RFU club is included although I could be wrong.'"
Given that your own board have decided not to proceed with [ianother[/i dispensation request because of "the French Connection"...
Quote: Roverswall "In view of recent rumours circulating about Willie and a move to French rugby union the club will not be pursuing dialogue with the RFL for a discretionary dispensation provided by the rules given these circumstances.'"
... I'd say it was a "given" rather than a "saucy rumour". Do you really think that if there was a shred of hope that Willie was straight Hudge would have issued this statement?
And so I ask again - do you still want him?
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| Quote: WormInHand "Given that your own board have decided not to proceed with [ianother[/i dispensation request because of "the French Connection"...
... I'd say it was a "given" rather than a "saucy rumour". Do you really think that if there was a shred of hope that Willie was straight Hudge would have issued this statement?
And so I ask again - do you still want him?'" Hudge could well be not going down that road until he is sure it is just a rumour so as to stop this getting even more farcical (Yes it is possible).
And i'll answer you again Yes (although I didn't give my reasons before)
Yes if he has been unfront, No if he hasn't
Put it this way IF as you assume Hudge is aware of the complete situation and Willie hasn't been honest why put THAT statement out?
Why not just state the french connection directly instead of saying they are going to talk to him over 'Media reports'.
That sounds to me like the club are still not totally sure what is going on themselves.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
[/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg |
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| Quote: Roverswall "Hudge could well be not going down that road until he is sure it is just a rumour so as to stop this getting even more farcical (Yes it is possible).
And i'll answer you again Yes (although I didn't give my reasons before)
Yes if he has been unfront, No if he hasn't
Put it this way IF as you assume Hudge is aware of the complete situation and Willie hasn't been honest why put THAT statement out?
Why not just state the french connection directly instead of saying they are going to talk to him over 'Media reports'.
[iThat sounds to me like the club are still not totally sure what is going on themselves.[/i'"
Trolling Thread.
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| lots of people are clutching straws and making up hypothetical scenarios etc, jumping to conclusions etc etc etc....
the simplified facts are
the club expected galea to come off quota...
they signed mason
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they failed to get galea off quota
but still awaited mason
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to get around the qouta they applied for a tongan passport
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season started
dobson injured after second game i believe it was
the club then chose to try a loophole and flew mason over on his nz passport/visa
they then de-registered dobson and registered mason pending the passport
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just less than a week to the derby all hell breaks loose and all of a sudden movement of sorts by the club.
they attempted a last ditch attempt to get a passport sorted but was not enough for the rfl to allow mason to qualify as non quota...they need the passport.
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the club then take the steps of de-registering mason and re-registering dobson amid wild speculative reports of french ru interest in mason etc etc etc
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the club say that they will not look for dispensation to re-register mason.
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queue the masses with the mason off to french ru etc etc etc..
totally unsubstantiated as yet.
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how about the club are just back to square one and are just letting what is to be what is in regards to timescales ala mason passport.
as a kr fan i do feel very very dissapointed that this fiasco has happened... the club have acted foolishly imo.
they enacted ala mason in the effort to try and make a quick buck out of the supporters in a leap of faith move over the passport timings.
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in regards to mason.... wait and see what happens now....
speculating and creating rumours and such is just as bad as the poor press etc surrounding the entire issue.
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| Quote: hkrdavidhkr "lots of people are clutching straws and making up hypothetical scenarios etc, jumping to conclusions etc etc etc....
the simplified facts are
the club expected galea to come off quota...
they signed mason
.
they failed to get galea off quota
but still awaited mason
.
to get around the qouta they applied for a tongan passport
.
season started
dobson injured after second game i believe it was
the club then chose to try a loophole and flew mason over on his nz passport/visa
they then de-registered dobson and registered mason pending the passport
.
just less than a week to the derby all hell breaks loose and all of a sudden movement of sorts by the club.
they attempted a last ditch attempt to get a passport sorted but was not enough for the rfl to allow mason to qualify as non quota...they need the passport.
.
the club then take the steps of de-registering mason and re-registering dobson amid wild speculative reports of french ru interest in mason etc etc etc
.
the club say that they will not look for dispensation to re-register mason.
.
queue the masses with the mason off to french ru etc etc etc..
totally unsubstantiated as yet.
.
how about the club are just back to square one and are just letting what is to be what is in regards to timescales ala mason passport.
as a kr fan i do feel very very dissapointed that this fiasco has happened... the club have acted foolishly imo.
they enacted ala mason in the effort to try and make a quick buck out of the supporters in a leap of faith move over the passport timings.
.
in regards to mason.... wait and see what happens now....
speculating and creating rumours and such is just as bad as the poor press etc surrounding the entire issue.'"
David, you are probably right but......let them finish their couple of days of fun.........
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