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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I don't see any SL side being in danger from any of the championship clubd'"
At this moment I would agree with you.
I would tend to wait till early may/June to see how they're going. Still think Leigh will be up there and they could cause some problems in middle 8's, London could do something at Home. Be intresting to see how they work Toronto fixtures (last year there away games were 1st).
That's of course if they are going to relegate anyone.
never know they might of decided there format for 2019 by then.
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| Quote: SirStan "Are you including other likely middle 8 opponents in that? I say that as it’s quite obvious we will be in them. Having watched the last 2 Toronto games I am a lot less worried as I think there’s little in the Championship that looks able to challenge. Leigh are in a right state already, Fev and London will probably make the top 4 but no disrespect when it mattered last year we had their number.
We should target 10th and with 4 home games we should navigate a top3 spot again, then look to build for 2019.'"
Was just including SL actually, I don't think that the championship clubs will be good enough to beat you.
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| Returning to the original question in the thread title, I think we are approaching a major crossroads.
The current board have done a fantastic job over a long period, but we know they’re there out of a sense duty/responsibility as much as anything by this point. Tony Larvin’s offer to relieve them of the burden was more than 5 years ago now.
With changes at the RFL, Pearson, Leneghan and Eddie Hearn offering thoughts on where SL might go, but little clarity even for next season’s structure, change is certainly in the air. And that offers opportunities as well as challenges.
With circumstances so unclear, it is hard to see how best to position the club, but we can think about what is most important to us. For me, much as I want success at the highest possible sustainable level, the key thing is to find a way to be independently viable at whatever level that might be.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "
With circumstances so unclear, it is hard to see how best to position the club, but we can think about what is most important to us. For me, much as I want success at the highest possible sustainable level, the key thing is to find a way to be independently viable at whatever level that might be.'"
But that's the problem. Until we know exactly what format RL is going to take not just next year, but in the future. And where Rovers are going to be in the grand scheme of things. It's very hard to predict were we are heading or what we've got to do. Short term the goal has to be staying in the SL so were more relevant in decusions on the new format. Long term I would personally like for what's been happening the last few years to continue. Progressing the club with the steps we've been making. Improving the club by learning from previous mistake (and put the games back to Sundays please). As a club were in a better place than we have been for a while. And hopefully with improvement on the field could in a few years lead to the club challenging to be be in the top 4, or Wembley finals (were we at least compete).
I agree with your comments regarding the board. 20 years ago through to mid 2000's we were in a bleak desperate place, averaging 1500/2000 crowds, of field issues etc. They have done a fantastic job steering us past that, to where we are now.
Unfortunately there dosn't seem to be anyone in Hull willing to put the money into the club. Or the sport as a whole really. Until we can get that investment we are doing the best we can, but to take the next step we need the investment & or a better recruitment.
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| Quote: luke ShipleyRed "But that's the problem. Until we know exactly what format RL is going to take not just next year, but in the future. And where Rovers are going to be in the grand scheme of things. It's very hard to predict were we are heading or what we've got to do. Short term the goal has to be staying in the SL so were more relevant in decusions on the new format. Long term I would personally like for what's been happening the last few years to continue. Progressing the club with the steps we've been making. Improving the club by learning from previous mistake (and put the games back to Sundays please). As a club were in a better place than we have been for a while. And hopefully with improvement on the field could in a few years lead to the club challenging to be be in the top 4, or Wembley finals (were we at least compete).
I agree with your comments regarding the board. 20 years ago through to mid 2000's we were in a bleak desperate place, averaging 1500/2000 crowds, of field issues etc. They have done a fantastic job steering us past that, to where we are now.
Unfortunately there dosn't seem to be anyone in Hull willing to put the money into the club. Or the sport as a whole really. Until we can get that investment we are doing the best we can, but to take the next step we need the investment & or a better recruitment.'"
Agree with all of that. The bit I've underlined certainly seems to be true in terms of new investors/benefactors, and while there's no indication the current board will pull the plug in the short-term, it's unrealistic to imagine they'll be there forever. The questions for me are 'is there a way Hull KR can be sustainable without that extra income?' and 'what does that look like?'. As you say, without knowing how things are going to be structured, it's impossible to know. But once things become clearer, it might be a good time for the club's stakeholders to look at the options.
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| Another way to look at it is where would we be now if we hadn't had that crazy 2 minutes in MPG? That relegation has probably set us back a few year again despite all the talk of getting rid of bad eggs etc?
Looking at Cas and Wakey I'd suggest they spend less or similar to us but have had relative success last few year.Our fans have been very loyal through all this but a bit of success on the pitch would make boards life easier and bring a few more floaters back.We need to speculate to accumulate but as newly promoted side again and also rumoured format changes who could splash the cash with any certainty? I agree we are at a pivotal period of the club but have every faith in The Hudge and RC.Would be nice to see them get some sort of return for their hard work and cash.
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| I slightly disagree about the relegation Craig.
On the playing side I agree with you. It's more the off field I think it helped the club. As I feel for a while before it became slightly complacent and were just drifting, and the relegation helped to refocus the club. And take a step forward.
The problem with not knowing what the format is no one is going to put money in if in a year or so they're not going to be getting what they were offered. Because it's changed through no fault of the club. When we finally know what's happening, then we can focus on getting newer investment in.
As for your point Mild,
I feel it's dependent on ambitions. If we're happy with the club being a middle SL side, then I think we are viable and will be for a few more years. If we want more, than I think the only real way we can achieve that is by outside investment which rests on the problems in the paragraph above. I think that at this moment the future's not that bad, we've achieved a level of viability that goes with were the club is.
The problem becomes if in the new format we're not in SL, and with little chance of getting back (ie franchising). Which will see us lose some sponsorship, and attendence levels will drop again. Then the club will fall back towards what it was back 15/20 years ago. Though hopefully not as bad.
Especially as we face the unique problem of having another club in the same city, that will probably still be in SL. If you throw in the football club, potential investors and sponsors have a choice. And as we know, they would put there faith in something successful.
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| Aye there is no way of knowing one way or other? Think a few wins on pitch would go a fair way in getting us all a bit more upbeat
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| Luke, yeah Wakefield and Cas seem to have found a way. Stepping down a level cuts costs but cuts income too. There’s certainly no easy solution.
Craig, I agree about getting some wins. Promotion laid a few ghosts to rest but I think there’s still a sense of pessimism. Every time we’re linked with or sign a player, there’s a tendency to draw parallels with a bad signing from the last few years - there’s one for every occasion after all. 3 scores up against Catalans, I couldn’t relax until the last 5 minutes. I’m dreading a trio of derby drubbings. A few good results should sort it, I hope. Mind you Hull fans still seem to find stuff to whinge about.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Luke, yeah Wakefield and Cas seem to have found a way. Stepping down a level cuts costs but cuts income too. There’s certainly no easy solution.
Craig, I agree about getting some wins. Promotion laid a few ghosts to rest but I think there’s still a sense of pessimism. Every time we’re linked with or sign a player, there’s a tendency to draw parallels with a bad signing from the last few years - there’s one for every occasion after all. 3 scores up against Catalans, I couldn’t relax until the last 5 minutes. I’m dreading a trio of derby drubbings. A few good results should sort it, I hope. Mind you Hull fans still seem to find stuff to whinge about.'"
I was the same against cats couldn't relax saying that I was like that in our 42-6 win against Hull at 26-0 I was saying just one more try and I can relax
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| Agree with you both. A couple of wins or at least performances and we'll all be a bit more upbeat. I thought at the start of the season we'd be in the middle 8's. Because of us being newly promoted, and because in my opinion there are still some players in the squad I just don't think are good enough. And nothing so far caused me to change my mind.
Next off season should we stay up will tell us where the club think there heading. We have a potential fairly competitive side, and couple of quality signings will push us on. Sign players that we've already got the like in the squad then I'd be more worried.
As for feeling confident in a game, I learnt my lesson in the 90 league 1 premiership final, 29 - 6 up, 20 mins to go. Yeah we've got this.
How wrong I was, now I wait till about 5 mins till the end to start thinking we could win.
As for the derbies. Because I've lived away from Hull for 20 years, so miss all the build up. And because there's so many of them and have been for the last 10 years or so. Oh and i expect us to lose them more often than not. They really don't bother me as much. As long as they put in the performance/effort that's fine with me.
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| Simple answer to the "Where are we heading question " , Rovers are heading back into the Championship.
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| Looks like we have another FC numpty to play with seems his IQ is on the level of billysbestmate
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| Another multiple. Look at join date and time and it coincides with a few other accounts,one masquerading as a KR fan again. Same lunatic who used to spam the HDM.
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| He needs to find himself a hobby.
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