FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Hull KR > Where are we headed?
125 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain383No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Hull KR the pride of East Hull.:



Quote: Jake the Peg "I don't see any SL side being in danger from any of the championship clubd'"


At this moment I would agree with you.
I would tend to wait till early may/June to see how they're going. Still think Leigh will be up there and they could cause some problems in middle 8's, London could do something at Home. Be intresting to see how they work Toronto fixtures (last year there away games were 1st).

That's of course if they are going to relegate anyone.
never know they might of decided there format for 2019 by then.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8546No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Mar 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17507_1286953982.jpg
Know your Enemy:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17507.jpg



Quote: SirStan "Are you including other likely middle 8 opponents in that? I say that as it’s quite obvious we will be in them. Having watched the last 2 Toronto games I am a lot less worried as I think there’s little in the Championship that looks able to challenge. Leigh are in a right state already, Fev and London will probably make the top 4 but no disrespect when it mattered last year we had their number.

We should target 10th and with 4 home games we should navigate a top3 spot again, then look to build for 2019.'"


Was just including SL actually, I don't think that the championship clubs will be good enough to beat you.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12640
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Returning to the original question in the thread title, I think we are approaching a major crossroads.
The current board have done a fantastic job over a long period, but we know they’re there out of a sense duty/responsibility as much as anything by this point. Tony Larvin’s offer to relieve them of the burden was more than 5 years ago now.
With changes at the RFL, Pearson, Leneghan and Eddie Hearn offering thoughts on where SL might go, but little clarity even for next season’s structure, change is certainly in the air. And that offers opportunities as well as challenges.
With circumstances so unclear, it is hard to see how best to position the club, but we can think about what is most important to us. For me, much as I want success at the highest possible sustainable level, the key thing is to find a way to be independently viable at whatever level that might be.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain383No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Hull KR the pride of East Hull.:



Quote: Mild Rover "
With circumstances so unclear, it is hard to see how best to position the club, but we can think about what is most important to us. For me, much as I want success at the highest possible sustainable level, the key thing is to find a way to be independently viable at whatever level that might be.'"


But that's the problem. Until we know exactly what format RL is going to take not just next year, but in the future. And where Rovers are going to be in the grand scheme of things. It's very hard to predict were we are heading or what we've got to do. Short term the goal has to be staying in the SL so were more relevant in decusions on the new format. Long term I would personally like for what's been happening the last few years to continue. Progressing the club with the steps we've been making. Improving the club by learning from previous mistake (and put the games back to Sundays please). As a club were in a better place than we have been for a while. And hopefully with improvement on the field could in a few years lead to the club challenging to be be in the top 4, or Wembley finals (were we at least compete).


I agree with your comments regarding the board. 20 years ago through to mid 2000's we were in a bleak desperate place, averaging 1500/2000 crowds, of field issues etc. They have done a fantastic job steering us past that, to where we are now.
Unfortunately there dosn't seem to be anyone in Hull willing to put the money into the club. Or the sport as a whole really. Until we can get that investment we are doing the best we can, but to take the next step we need the investment & or a better recruitment.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12640
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Quote: luke ShipleyRed "But that's the problem. Until we know exactly what format RL is going to take not just next year, but in the future. And where Rovers are going to be in the grand scheme of things. It's very hard to predict were we are heading or what we've got to do. Short term the goal has to be staying in the SL so were more relevant in decusions on the new format. Long term I would personally like for what's been happening the last few years to continue. Progressing the club with the steps we've been making. Improving the club by learning from previous mistake (and put the games back to Sundays please). As a club were in a better place than we have been for a while. And hopefully with improvement on the field could in a few years lead to the club challenging to be be in the top 4, or Wembley finals (were we at least compete).


I agree with your comments regarding the board. 20 years ago through to mid 2000's we were in a bleak desperate place, averaging 1500/2000 crowds, of field issues etc. They have done a fantastic job steering us past that, to where we are now.
Unfortunately there dosn't seem to be anyone in Hull willing to put the money into the club. Or the sport as a whole really. Until we can get that investment we are doing the best we can, but to take the next step we need the investment & or a better recruitment.'"


Agree with all of that. The bit I've underlined certainly seems to be true in terms of new investors/benefactors, and while there's no indication the current board will pull the plug in the short-term, it's unrealistic to imagine they'll be there forever. The questions for me are 'is there a way Hull KR can be sustainable without that extra income?' and 'what does that look like?'. As you say, without knowing how things are going to be structured, it's impossible to know. But once things become clearer, it might be a good time for the club's stakeholders to look at the options.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2363
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2022Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Another way to look at it is where would we be now if we hadn't had that crazy 2 minutes in MPG? That relegation has probably set us back a few year again despite all the talk of getting rid of bad eggs etc?
Looking at Cas and Wakey I'd suggest they spend less or similar to us but have had relative success last few year.Our fans have been very loyal through all this but a bit of success on the pitch would make boards life easier and bring a few more floaters back.We need to speculate to accumulate but as newly promoted side again and also rumoured format changes who could splash the cash with any certainty? I agree we are at a pivotal period of the club but have every faith in The Hudge and RC.Would be nice to see them get some sort of return for their hard work and cash.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain383No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Hull KR the pride of East Hull.:



I slightly disagree about the relegation Craig.
On the playing side I agree with you. It's more the off field I think it helped the club. As I feel for a while before it became slightly complacent and were just drifting, and the relegation helped to refocus the club. And take a step forward.

The problem with not knowing what the format is no one is going to put money in if in a year or so they're not going to be getting what they were offered. Because it's changed through no fault of the club. When we finally know what's happening, then we can focus on getting newer investment in.

As for your point Mild,
I feel it's dependent on ambitions. If we're happy with the club being a middle SL side, then I think we are viable and will be for a few more years. If we want more, than I think the only real way we can achieve that is by outside investment which rests on the problems in the paragraph above. I think that at this moment the future's not that bad, we've achieved a level of viability that goes with were the club is.
The problem becomes if in the new format we're not in SL, and with little chance of getting back (ie franchising). Which will see us lose some sponsorship, and attendence levels will drop again. Then the club will fall back towards what it was back 15/20 years ago. Though hopefully not as bad.
Especially as we face the unique problem of having another club in the same city, that will probably still be in SL. If you throw in the football club, potential investors and sponsors have a choice. And as we know, they would put there faith in something successful.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2363
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2022Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Aye there is no way of knowing one way or other? Think a few wins on pitch would go a fair way in getting us all a bit more upbeat

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12640
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Luke, yeah Wakefield and Cas seem to have found a way. Stepping down a level cuts costs but cuts income too. There’s certainly no easy solution.

Craig, I agree about getting some wins. Promotion laid a few ghosts to rest but I think there’s still a sense of pessimism. Every time we’re linked with or sign a player, there’s a tendency to draw parallels with a bad signing from the last few years - there’s one for every occasion after all. 3 scores up against Catalans, I couldn’t relax until the last 5 minutes. I’m dreading a trio of derby drubbings. A few good results should sort it, I hope. Mind you Hull fans still seem to find stuff to whinge about.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7194
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Mild Rover "Luke, yeah Wakefield and Cas seem to have found a way. Stepping down a level cuts costs but cuts income too. There’s certainly no easy solution.

Craig, I agree about getting some wins. Promotion laid a few ghosts to rest but I think there’s still a sense of pessimism. Every time we’re linked with or sign a player, there’s a tendency to draw parallels with a bad signing from the last few years - there’s one for every occasion after all. 3 scores up against Catalans, I couldn’t relax until the last 5 minutes. I’m dreading a trio of derby drubbings. A few good results should sort it, I hope. Mind you Hull fans still seem to find stuff to whinge about.'"

I was the same against cats couldn't relax saying that I was like that in our 42-6 win against Hull at 26-0 I was saying just one more try and I can relax

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain383No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Hull KR the pride of East Hull.:



Agree with you both. A couple of wins or at least performances and we'll all be a bit more upbeat. I thought at the start of the season we'd be in the middle 8's. Because of us being newly promoted, and because in my opinion there are still some players in the squad I just don't think are good enough. And nothing so far caused me to change my mind.
Next off season should we stay up will tell us where the club think there heading. We have a potential fairly competitive side, and couple of quality signings will push us on. Sign players that we've already got the like in the squad then I'd be more worried.

As for feeling confident in a game, I learnt my lesson in the 90 league 1 premiership final, 29 - 6 up, 20 mins to go. Yeah we've got this.
How wrong I was, now I wait till about 5 mins till the end to start thinking we could win.

As for the derbies. Because I've lived away from Hull for 20 years, so miss all the build up. And because there's so many of them and have been for the last 10 years or so. Oh and i expect us to lose them more often than not. They really don't bother me as much. As long as they put in the performance/effort that's fine with me.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain13No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20187 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Simple answer to the "Where are we heading question " , Rovers are heading back into the Championship.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7194
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Looks like we have another FC numpty to play with seems his IQ is on the level of billysbestmate

RankPostsTeam
International Star2363
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2022Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Another multiple. Look at join date and time and it coincides with a few other accounts,one masquerading as a KR fan again. Same lunatic who used to spam the HDM.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4173
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



He needs to find himself a hobby.

125 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
125 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


17.37548828125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Leigh it is
MattyB
79
8m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2449
11m
Film game
karetaker
4065
13m
TV Games - Not Hull
hull2524
2907
24m
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
just_browny
17
29m
Tonights match v HKR
just_browny
85
30m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10095
31m
Championship Awards
Trojan Horse
9
39m
Decision on the field
hatty
12
42m
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
44s
Squad 2024
Tony Fax
736
44s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10095
46s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40182
50s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
55s
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2449
1m
Championship Awards
Trojan Horse
9
1m
Coach of the Year
Howfenwire
11
1m
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
1m
Play-off semi-final
BarnsleyGull
19
1m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Mild Rover
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Decision on the field
hatty
12
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
just_browny
17
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess
Boss Hog
7
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
just_browny
85
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Phuzzy
10
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
northernblok
2
TODAY
Championship Awards
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
8
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Bully_Boxer
21
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
BarnsleyGull
19
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Howfenwire
11
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
212
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
789
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
819
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1228
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1449
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1198
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1607
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1308
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1537
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1711
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2058
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1664
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1701
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2028
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1725