So it's still Chester, not the players or the BOD. How covenient and such an easy scapegoat. You took on Webster! that's what stuffed you.

Just seen the tries on the sky sports website. Some abysmal goal line defence.

You look like a team which stuttered through a championship season without ever looking convincing and has had 3 or 4 average SL quality additions to it

I'd be amazed if you don't finish in the bottom 4 but I do think you'll win (at least) 1 of the derbies unfortunately

I don't think there goal line defence was that bad as most Trinity tries came out wide. It was Trins ability to bash up the middle then spraed it out wide that got HKR. TBF you just don't get that at Championship level.

It's how quickly they adapt that matters.

There's plenty of blame to go around for 2016, but Chester certainly deserves a share. Webster much less so, as he was given so little authority and so bears little responsibility. The decision to appoint an interim head coach and give him little power was unwise.

Maybe but surely anyone could see Webster was not head coach material after he basically destroyed Trinity in 2015 and he had all the authority and power he needed.

The problem with most SL clubs, Chairman and fans is they don't give coaches the chance to learn. There is no degree in coaching, your not born to it, its an aquired skill. Of course CC would make mistakes and go backwrds before going forward but considering he got you to Wembley (someting he's failed to do with us) he was worth sticking with.

perhaps sometimes we all need to big up and admit we got it wrong about someone. CC seems to have learned a lot, even in the last two years he seems noticeably more relaxed. To early to tell whether he's the absolute real deal but he's doing OK.

Not the ideal start,against a good wakey side who were a good benchmark for us and deservedly won.A dire 1st half in which we failed to complete a set of 6,better in the 2nd half but if we dont finish in the bottom 4 i ill be amazed.Nice to see matty marsh our home grown talent visible for a change with the sinbinning and the dropped pass when we had a rare overlap.When our forwards ran out other than masoe,you would not have not known whether it was the forwards or backs,still we have danny tickle to look forward to.

I broadly agree in principle. But it'd had gone beyond that point with Chester, and it'd have bordered on cruelty to keep him and rub his nose in what he'd done. He needed a fresh start and seems to have seized his second chance. Don't forget, he wasn't sacked.

Wembley was very much very much a double edged sword for him. Yes he got us there, but his focus on enjoying the occasion was (paradoxically) likely a contributory factor in it being such a miserable experience. Nobody could have anticipated the extent of Dixon's second half meltdown, in fairness.

The other frustration about Wembley is hearing from Peacock how the Leeds team got together and determined to put us to the sword. Fair enough, that was their job. But to then see him seemingly bring none of that ruthlessness to his role at Rovers was dispiriting. Fair play, he offered his resignation and maybe, like Chester, has learned lessons too. But we just can't keep being the place where people learn from their mistakes. That is why Sheens' stock is so high, IMO - he's got a tough job, but we know he's not naive.

The thing I didn't like about Chester was in interviews he always seemed to have this defeatist mentality and that must have been passed on to the players

Where is Page des is he still coming

can I have piny of what you drink

I know you have to try and take positives from a game lost, and it is only game 1 of a long season but, and it gives me no pleasure to say it, I'd be a bit nervous about the coming season if I was an HKR fan.
I don't think Tim Sheens credentials are in doubt, but you have to play the hand you're dealt and I'm not sure the cards are gonna fall well for him unless they can really punch well above their weight all season.
I hope I'm wrong but they need a lot of average players to be a proper tight unit and become greater than the sum of their parts.
Having a field full of stars doesn't make a winning team, if you can get a field full of average players singing from the same hymn sheet, then you've got a chance, that has to be Sheens target.

It's a Wakefield thing - he is a bit like that I agree but so is Wayne Bennett and he's done ok. But I agree his after match comments are still a bit uninspiring tbh.

This is a major part of the problem for us in that the BOD can behave like fans eg going in the sheds to give players a hairdryer treatment after a heavy defeat, signing Willie Mason and so on. Lee Radford makes a tongue in cheek comment about the “little brother” is back after we get promotion and Hudgell puts it in his twitter bio and mentions it in the pre season preview - childish. The likes of Michael Carter and Adam Pearson approach it from a more rational business side and leave the playing side to those who are paid to do it and results are speaking for themselves.