We don't need time to tell us they are cheaper.

I prefer Asda beans to Heinze

A mathematical genius aswell as a Rugby League expert, is there no end to your talents?

I'm sure there is but just not reached them yet

Time will indeed tell.

If Sandercock can get a winning run from these seemingly random and panic-bought players then he must be a truly peerless coach.

My opinion is you will scrap for 11th.

rovers' 1st choice 17 is good enough to make the 8 but if they have a bad injury run they're fubar'd

so we seem to have randomly panic bought whereas you seem to be randomly TRYING and failing to panic buy any scrum half in the world . My opinion is that you will scrap for 9th or 10th and ellis wont play half your games

How is signing a player 3 months before the season starts "panic buying"?

I think you need holding back a year in troll school, you need to up your game.

I take it you do know nobody on here gives a flying about that don't you?

At least if we need to blame injuries, we've been well schooled in that, coming from the same city as you lot.

Panic Bought?... Random???....

Discuss oh sage!

The obvious comparisons you have deliberately neglected to use are a 25 year old, 6ft 5, 16st Paterson vs 34 year old, 5ft 10, 15st Galea. Whilst Galea will maybe be quicker over 10 yards and have a lower centre of gravity, Paterson will almost certainly be stronger in most muscle groups, be faster over 40 yards. As far as Paterson's injuries go, I'm not too concerned because his injuries have happened whilst he's only 223/24 so his recovery should be really good unlike if he was 34 like Galea.

When you look at our back three, Shannon McDonnell and Nick Johnson have gone with Caro and Brown coming in who are far bigger, stronger and faster.

Then we come to the off-halfs; you list Green's weight against Burns opting to deliberately neglect last season's injury problems like you have for Paterson and Tuimavava. Green lost a fair bit of pace after his injury last year and it remains to be seen what the type of terrible injury he sustained will take out of him long term because he certainly wasn't the same player when he came back - even after a few games.

Then there are the front-rowers. Your repeated instances of bringing up Clinton in an attempt to isolate my opinion on him are funny. As I've said on multiple occasions, Clinton is a top draw prop forward in my opinion (and Nick Fozzard's apparently with Paul J saying Clinton was one of the best front-rowers he's played against) but there have been some application issues but anyway, despite Tuimavava's injury concerns, CS wouldn't have signed him if he had the same type of application problems because he's worked with him before.

You've mentioned Watts and Wheeldon, but they left half-way through last season so I don't consider them relevant (but you obviously do to support you spurious argument). James Green was on loan virtually all of last season where as this season he'll be fighting for a place in the 17 - he happens to be a 21 year old, 6ft 7 monster.

Walker is actually a replacement for Taylor. Taylor is immensely strong for his size but Walker has the bigger frame.

My comment was a sweeping generalisation like you say. But on the whole I am right.

You need to delete your bookmarks and seek counselling.

Well, obviously you could choose these two for a "like for like" comparison if you see 2nd row/prop Paterson filling in at stand off as LF/SR/SO Galea did, that's your call. But if you're going to bang on about Galea's injuries as extensively as you have done over recent weeks and want to be measured, where are your references to Paterson's catalogue? Bit selective for them not to have been discussed at all during the months since his signing. To say "someone's recovery should be really good" is no evidence of anything really, is it? Just an generalisation based on age and hope.


On the fullback point, Craig Hall replaces McDonnell as it stands, so not "far bigger", in the way Webster is far bigger and stronger than Gleeson. I already referenced the wingers in my previous post.



Green's key "injury" problem was a one-off illness/incident. It doesn't really help your argument to use the adjective "terrible" and imply long term implications because no one knows. Later on you say you're not worried about Tuimavave's poor injury record because Sandercock knows him. A punt on my part, but I'll put the suggestion out there that Wigan have monitored his progress post blood clot before paying north of £100,000 for him.



You're right, we've done the mismatch between your Clinton expectations and his disappointing lack of delivery under both coaches (although Morgan got more out of him, it's fair to say) before. For absence of previous mention of injury issues on Tuimavave, simply refer to Paterson above.




In terms of young props, obviously it helps your far bigger argument to big up (if you'll pardon the pun) Walker and discount Watts and Wheeldon. But with only 1 SL game to his name, surely the latter names are more relevant? Big lads.



In this instance, what bookmarks? I'm replying to a post. You're a funny one. I'm puzzled to see you downgrading your expectations though. Before last season, I think, you were confident that with a few signings Rovers could challenge at the top and chase silverware because "that's what it's all about." Now you're saying as long as they give it a good go, that's what it's all about. What is it all about?

There's really no need to continually challenge my mental health just because no one else ever picks you up on anything, it lends no weight to your argument, just looks like silly name-calling by a little boy. So stop being mean and tune in to watch England later. Briscoe's in the squad, although unlikely to be picked in the back row. Shame, that.

Time will tell wether our cheapo new players do better than our more experienced expensive 10th placed players I guess,
E.T doesn't really have to do that much to be better than Clinton imo.
Paterson probably won't be as good for us as Galea was, but hopefully he will do well.
Caro and Brown are inexperienced at this level but hopefully give us more of an attacking threat out wide.
Walker for Taylor is a hard one, hell obviously need time but has some big shoes to fill.
Gleeson's not the best defensive wise imo, but knows where the try line is, hopefully hell Di better than sick note Webster who did try his best imo, but was never ever fully fit which is a real shame.
Burns for Green was probably good business too, if Darren Lockyer says hell be good then that'll do for me.
I'm hoping for big things from Con Mika next year, hopefully hell be fitter, a little wiser, he looks to have the makings of an Ali Lauatiti about him.

So all in all I'm pretty hopeful we can improve next season, we still need a couple more players to boost the squad though.

Excellent summary. You should post more.