Seems a tad strange that the only place to mention these injuries is the HDM I must say.Saying that it must of been in the news somewhere first for them to of picked up on it

Did Kiel also face prosecution for knocking someone out cold (as he said in his HDM interview)

Was he prosecuted?

No

My arguemtn on this is that Pro rugby players should have to do that educational bit as part of there job in the first place.

But the other argument is that cleaning chewing gum off the streets is a multi-million pound business, a guy from Hull has just won the contract to clean the streets of Warrington and Liverpool for a few million pounds so to have CS participants doing it would be taking jobs off people like myself that have been laid off and cant find work.

Ben has a job why give him another one that someone would be glad to be paid to do??

Sending Ben into schools/colleges/youth centres...etc to teach them of how close he came to losing his career and how awful prison really was can only be done by these types of people and not people like myself who've never experienced it and are not top sporting stars.

Would they have taken the same action if one of your academy/u 21's had behaved in the same way? Doubt it very much.Rovers have punished him more than i expected but still not hard enough IMO.....and before you start ranting yes Raynor and all the others who have pushed themselves a step too far should have been shown the door at FC too.

So long as all players are given the same treatment I dont have a problem, Ben deserved jail, but he didn't get it and its not RL's place to start levelling sentencing up to appease public opinion. I would have expected FC, Wigan and the others to have banned their players for a period to show there disgust as well, but after any ban the offenders concerned have a right to earn a living and a right to be given a chance at redemption.

No exceptions based on first team, reserves or even GB status.

Another reason they should expand Hull prison around East Hull?

I thought he’d probably be asked to resign but as someone has already said he’d only be snapped up by another club so I think the board have got the statement and further punishment about right.
He’s on thin ice with the law and the club and his reputation with the local public will take along time to repair if ever, lets move on...

Ben in an england shirt next season.

...................................... same old same old?

all of these opinions were more or less expressed in the previous Cockayne thread

For me, very disappointed he did not go to jail for a bit

disappointed that HKR did not sack him, but can understand why they didn't.

closed subject for me now